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4/14/2012 9:56:38 PM
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University to ban Alcohol because 20% of students are muslim

[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/apr/12/university-alcohol-free-zones-muslim-students]University where 20% of students are Muslim considers alcohol-free zones 'We need to be more cautious about sex too,' says vice-chancellor of London Metropolitan University [/url] [quote]A London university is considering establishing alcohol-free zones on its campuses because so many of its students consider drinking to be immoral. Professor Malcolm Gillies, vice-chancellor of London Metropolitan University, said the selling of alcohol was an issue of "cultural sensitivity" at his institution where a fifth of students are Muslim. Speaking to a conference of university administrators in Manchester, he said that for many students, drinking alcohol was "an immoral experience". "Because there is no majority ethnic group [at London Metropolitan], I think [selling alcohol] is playing to particular parts of our society much more [than to others]," he was reported as saying in the Times Higher Education magazine. He said he saw little reason for the university to subsidise a student bar on campus when there were "at least half a dozen pubs within 200m". He told the Guardian the makeup of his institution had changed considerably over the past few decades. In the past it had been "substantially Anglo Saxon now 20% of our students are Muslim," he said. "We therefore need to rethink how we cater for that 21st-century balance. For many students now, coming to university is not about having a big drinking experience. The university bar is not as used as it used to be."[/quote] [Edited on 04.14.2012 1:59 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 For anyone of you who thinks this is so wrong... Name me one freedom without location and forum restrictions, besides freedom of thought (thoughts can't possibly offend or hurt others unless you say them). Go one, give me an example of one freedom that isn't balanced with the freedoms of others, creating unavoidable restrictions. [/quote]How can you possibly have argued for us for this long without understanding our position? Also, what "right" are the minority of students in this situation asserting?[/quote] Their right to have a space to practice their religion freely, which they cannot do with alcohol around? Like I said, this is a balancing act. The non drinking students' right to have a space to be away from alcohol vs. the drinkers' right to drink. Since the students are free to choose where they live, and the students who drink can live in areas that allow it, the non drinkers' rights outweigh the drinker's rights [i]in the alcohol free areas.[/i] The reverse is true in the areas where alcohol is permitted.[/quote]The right to freely practice one's religion does not include the right to restrict the rights of others. Most universities have some sort of chapel wherein students can worship. It might be okay to disallow alcohol there, but disallowing alcohol in public areas of the university is not. [quote]You realize that the college isn't going to literally take the drinks out of the student's hands, right? The change will go into effect at the beginning of the next school year, and students who want to live in areas where alcohol is permitted will be given plenty of time to choose. [/quote]You realize that not once in the article was housing ever mentioned, right?[/quote] I assume that housing is included in "zones and events". And like I pointed out when I posted the Supreme Court article about the ministerial exception in American law, there are times when religious freedom can be used to restrict individual rights.

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