Its year 2015 and games like this only have 6v6, honestly I'm disappointed and ashamed that companies like bungie, activision, trearch, and valve are so large if they cant go above 16 ppl per pvp match (halo was 32 and it was doing it right, but Destiny doesn't go above 12). Why not be the first to change and make a fun game where it is an all out warfare of guardians? 20v20 deathmatch? id easily pay about 200 bucks just for that game (not including the system) but the people making games are thinking "lets make more shaders and do some balancing on already balanced guns; the players want big explosions and fancy music and art", to be honest, idgaf about art music or explosions (unless the explosion is useful and i can get more than 1 person with it) i would've gotten this game if it had oldschool doom graphics with this gameplay, but after playing it, my mind has changed because it caps at 12 players per pvp match. As is, if I didn't already own this game, id pay $25 for it tops. Basically what I'm getting at is make this game fun and add in more everything like gamemodes levels players and choices and a 20v20 pvp mode because -blam!- yeah.