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1/21/2015 1:00:31 AM
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TLW: The gun I love to use but rarely can

1st Repost Destiny has been very good to me. I've had the opportunity to acquire a lot of different weapons and try different styles. But even now, after having tried a fair share, my first love, TLW, and in the hands of my hunter, is still my favorite, and that's why it burdens me that I can't use it more often. My friend once told me that after I use TLW enough, It'd be my favorite, and he was right. Now my problem is that I don’t get to use it much at all because in many situations it doesn't cut the mustard. If you're a skilled player, then you can make do with just about any gun, so I don't buy the whole "you just don't know how to use it." Hand cannons account for WAY more of my kills than any other weapon. And will continue to do so because they're my favorite. I'm not the best with them, but I think I've test driving enough weapons by now. Unfortunately, TLW is very, very limited in how it performs compared to other HCs. Actually . . . when compared to all HCs. It can be used in any situation, of course, but it's not made to be used in most situations. It’s okay that it can't do everything, but this gun can't can't do a lot of things. TLW is good for one on one encounters mid range in PvP . . . and that's it. And that's if the other person doesn't have a fusion rifle at mid range, or a shotgun at close. And that’s if they miss. Or they're facing the other way. That's a pretty situational, and I've had very lucky games with high kills with the gun. TLW in it’s current form, while fun, is not exotic. As is, it should be some other color. It's own color, because it's unique and interesting, but it's not a power house. One look at Suros, Mythoclast, Gallyhorn, Thorn, Hawkmoon and anyone will say, "That's an exotic." One time, another friend took a look at TLW and said, "That's pathetic." I guess you could argue that it’s exoticness is “hidden,” but is that really what an exotic should be? Maybe so. A lot of folk have it on their top 10 favs for the Crucible, and yes, the gun works well enough there, but what if I'm exhausted from the Crucible, but not from TLW? In PvE, like I said, a good player can make it work, but as soon as they get something with better range and ammo, yea it's over. TLW goes in the vault unless they just want to have a little fun, but it’s not the “go to” weapon that exotics are supposed to be from what I’ve seen in Bungie’s description. I"m not suggesting a complete overhaul because you can't have a gun that beats everything. (Except MythoClast, which I was lucky happy enough to get, but, honestly, I STILL like TLW better) And because I like TLW, I want to be able to use the thing in PvP AND PvE. The suggestion is simple and won't change the intent of the weapon to be a gunslinger type. 1. In the first column, a perk that exchanges the guns amazing stability for acceptable range. (It's an exotic weapon and it has a lower range than almost ANY other gun of any class and level? Huh? ) 2. In the second column, a perk that will boost the gun's magazine count. Let us forgo extra stability and oversized rounds for more ammo. The quick draw/ADS perk is kinda silly since the gun encourages you to fire from the hip anyway, which I enjoy. As far as the animation, one can start firing the weapon before the animation finishes if desired. It's never interfered with me. It's a contradictory perk. In reality it’s kind of a contradictory gun in these respects. Low rang and low magazine size. You really will spend as much time reloading as you do firing with this gun. And reloading, no matter fast, is always a weakness. More ammo (about 10 rounds) will make it a fast paced weapon for sure. In Crucible, if it takes more than 5 shots to kill your opponent, you're dead anyway. It won't change that gameplay all that much, especially with reduced stability, that perk would be a liability. I just want a little more range in usage is all, so I can carry it with me in high paced environments where close encounters (light switch) or reloading (angry) are both detrimental. Basically, I'm begging. If the tone of this is in any way, offensive. I'm sorry, I just want to use this weapon WAY more than I do and not have to always hide behind cover when my teammates need me to be firing. But as it stands, I only get to use it in the crucible, because so many other (most) guns outclass it in PvE. Please consider these two suggestions. I know a lot of people are protective of this gun, but think it over, please. This is not a buff, it's a tune-up. Edit: It's been commented that this gun was really strong before and was nerfed? Is this true?

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  • The misuse of the last word in PvE - running around using it like a hip fire Uzi. Fan fire should be used as an oh shit bailout, not a way to run through your whole clip in two low level enemies. If you use it like a hand cannon and not like a sub machine gun, it works wonders. Did two nightfalls with it last week, had little issue.

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    • It didnt get a nerf, but i think your problem is that you rely on one gun, all guns have a weak spot and you fill that weak spot with a good secondary. See since TLW is so good and close to medium range there is no need for a fusion or shotty sniper is the most viable option. I know you love your Last Word but it cant do everything almost but not quite so you must rely on your secondary. If your not good with a sniper get good. This game is all about offset having all grounds covered. And yes you maybe get killed by a shotty or a fusion but thats the territory TLW puts you in deal with it and adapt. TLW doesnt need a buff though it would just be too op

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    • http://youtu.be/nQDSeR7ErQk

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    • My favorite weapon over all the exotics I've gotten. I use it for everything.. Pve or Pvp see me using it as much as possible in raids. I can't use for Dann oracles though lol

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    • TLW is ridiculous. When I use it in PvP i get owned but other's can two shot me at mysterious range. WTF Bungie

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      • Everything strong gets nerfed. Biggest prob with TLW? No range. It does have a unique color, which is gold on dark metal. It needs, as mentioned in another post, to play the Good, Bad, Ugly theme whenever you pull it out.

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      • I love handcannons too. At first I always played a lot with scoutrifles and still love my Vision of Confluence. I got the Last Word, Thorn, Hawkmoon, but also Fatebringer. I love my Fatebringer, but like the animation on Last Word more. I switch a lot from handcannon but most of the times I play with Fatebringer.

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        • After this last update the last word feels a little weak... Was it dare I say Ninja Nurfed?

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        • So. That's a long post. But I get the gist of it. And. For the most part I agree. TLW is very limited and I don't use it in serious PVE events like nightfall strikes. It just doesn't perform. So. I feel ya. It is what it is thou. TLW for me is a disappointment and I've been curious how others can love it so much.

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          • I see weapons the way I was taught in the Army. There is only one weapon, you, and everything else is an extension of you. A tool to be used, and you adjust and pick the right tool for the job/situation. I find many times I adjust my weapons 2-3 times a strike in PvE based on need and situation. PvP is different, but again at times change things as per maps. Normally I run Shadow Price and Secret Handshake, but if on a more open map I would switch Shadow Price for Strange Suspect given the need for more flexibility in ranges at times.

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          • Last word is life

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          • All around I love this gun, pve or pvp it's definitely one of my top choices. I use it over my vex in almost every situation

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          • Here's my opinion on TLW. PVE- Don't waste your time. Better off with purple hc. PVP- OP. My K/d almost doubled since I started using it last week. The trick is that you never ADS! If you don't like to hipfire, your better off with thorn. Also I recommend max impact(Aggressive Ballistics/High Caliber Rounds). Close/Mid range- Unbeatable if you keep your distance from shotguns and listen for FRs. Mid/Long range- Fire semi-auto(still hipfire!). If they are too far to hipfire you should be using a sniper.

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          • I get what u mean about pve...it doesn't really perform that well...but it's great in PvP...if they messed with it anymore it would be too much in crucible...it must be hard to balance....if only our guns could have separate PvP and pve stats...so we could get some more use out of guns like tlw in pve while not breaking PvP...I imagine that's quite hard to program though...it's the same with shotguns...they kinda suck in pve but if they buffed them it would be too op in crucible...dam balance must be very hard to maintain in a game like this

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