Truth is all exotic weapons are underpowered I have the mythoclast, suros, thorn, ect. I choose not to use any of them since they have been nerfed, they are no more powerful than legendary versions. I agree pvp players ruined exotic weapons Why didn't they make separate playlists in crucible, here's a list of modes to play while using exotic weapons, and another list of modes where exotics are disabled, just a thought and I hate pvp and don't ever play unless I had an exotic weapon challange which was a complete waste of time now Exotics are suppose to be op, at least for pve anyhow Or why not just take damage value away while playing pvp and leave the weapons alone for those of us not plying crucible? Buy to your original post yes I blame pvp players wether it's true/right//wrong IMO they ruined all exotic weapons Edit.... I could give a crap less about how these weapons perform in pvp, bc pvp is trash on destiny, I don't play that crap unless I have too. The point is exotics were awesome, then all the pvp players cried nerf and ruined them!!! I do not wish any of you a happy holidays and I hope your happy how this game turned out now that everyone has same armor again