You know, I ran the VOG about a week ago with a couple of my regulars whom have experience and two people without any raiding experience whatsoever. They both made multiple comments about how much they appreciated me taking the time to explain each aspect of the raid and simply bringing them along for the ride. Did it take longer to complete? Absolutely. Was it somewhat frustrating? At times, incredibly. However, by the end, each member of that raid group felt a little more confident than they were before and we were able to take down Atheon with no wipes. All of us were Raid newcomers at one point, so I don't really get the rationale behind someone saying "If they can't beat this enemy in this amount of time, I boot them." Or, "If they don't have the Gorgon card, they can't raid with me." Initially, I just did what I was told during my first VOG run until I became familiar with the process and mechanics of the raid. Now, after many completions, I'm confident enough to offer advice, lead a team, and even pick up the dreaded shield and take down Gatekeepers by myself. I'll be a rookie again when I run TDB, but with time and experience, I'll be the one looking to lead. I guess I was just more hopeful people would be more willing to lend a hand. The uber-dedicated Guardians on here run raids with their clans with undeniably good reason - they want people who know what they're doing and can be counted on. However, there are many of us whom feel more than okay assisting new and veteran Guardians alike. Happy hunting, Guardians.