Went through many different groups on Xbox One yesterday as I play sword holder and need a good group to provide sufficient support. Got into one group where ONE guy had a gjallarhorn and ONE guy had an ice breaker...one was a lvl 29 and one was a 30 and the rest were 31's with ass guns not upgraded. It was obvious that someone had given them the checkpoint as they were clueless as all hell. Those -"Holy crap dude these are like, lvl 32 enemies!"- type of people. I gave them a chance but after a few runs it was obvious they did not have enough firepower to complete the mission. They couldn't even kill the oversoul if one person died, let alone drop Crota twice. Please just hold off until you're ready...no need to waste the time of people who actually come prepared. Edit: Some people are misunderstanding my icebreaker/gjallarhorn remark. I am not at all saying that an icebreaker or Gjallarhorn are required to beat the raid. Just that the 2 lowest levels were the only ones who had guns worth while while the 31's had ass guns that they hadn't bothered to upgrade. A raid full of people too lazy to grind gear to make them fully capable. If you don't have an icebreaker/gjallarhorn you should at least have something to bring to the table that can keep up with it and make a contribution to your team, not a weight on their shoulders.