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12/19/2014 4:49:40 AM
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Grimoire cards story

Ok so I've been reading the cards and I came across 3 vex cards that are extremely intriguing and I wanted to get your thoughts on what they mean. These three in specific are something out of the twilight zone and I can't help but be intrigued by the amount of story they might add to this game. Enjoy! Ghost fragment Vex [b]From the records of the Ishtar Collective[/b] ESI: Maya, I need your help. I don't know how to fix this Sundaresh: what is it? Chioma. Sit. Tell me. ESI: I've figured out what's happening inside the specimen. Sundaresh: Twelve? The operational vex platform? That's incredible! You must know what this means - ah, so. It's not good. Or you'd be on my side of the desk. And it's not urgent, or you'd already have evacuated the site. Which means... ESI: I have a working interface with the specimens internal environment. I can see what it's thinking. Sundaresh: in metaphorical terms, of course. The cognitive architectures are so - ESI: No. I don't need any kind of epistemology bridge. Sundaresh: Are you telling me it's human? A human merkwelt? Human qualia? ESI: I'm telling you it's full of humans. It's thinking about us. Sundaresh: About - oh no. ESI: Its stimulating us. Vividly. Elaborately. It's running a spectacularly high-fidelity model of a collective research team studying a captive vex entity. Sundaresh: How deep does it go? ESI: right now the simulated Maya Sundaresh is meeting with the simulated Chioma Esi to discuss an unexpected problem. [indistict sounds] Sundaresh: There's no divergence? That's impossible. It doesn't have enough information. ESI: It inferred. It works from what it sees and it infers the rest. I know that feels unlikely. But it obviously has capabilities we don't. It may have breached our shared virtual workspace... The neural links could have given it data... Sundaresh: The simulations have interiority? Subjectivity? ESI: I can't know that until I look more closely. But they act like us. Sundaresh: We're inside it. By any reasonable philosophical standard, we are inside that vex. ESI: Unless you take a particularly ruthless approach to the problem of casual forks: yes, they are us. Sundaresh: Call a team meeting. ESI: The other you has too. Ghost fragment Vex 2 [b]From the records of the Ishtar Collective[/b] Sundaresh: So that's the situation as we know it. ESI: to the best of my understanding SHIM: well I'll be a [profane] [profanity]. This is extremely [profane]. That thing has us over a barrel. Sundaresh: Yeah. We're in a difficult position. DUANE-MCNIADH: I don't understand. So it's simulating us? It made virtual copies of us? How does that give it power? ESI: it controls the simulation. It can hurt our simulated selves. We wouldn't feel the pain, but rationally speaking, we have to treat an identical copy's agony as our own. Sundaresh: it's God in there. It can simulate our torments. Forever. If we don't let it go, it'll put us through hell. DUANE-MCNIADH: we have no casual connection to mind-state of those sims. They aren't us. Just copies. We have no obligation to them. ESI: you can't seriously - your own self - SHIM: [profane] idiot! Think. Think. If it can run one simulation, maybe it can run more than one. And there will only ever be one reality. Play the odds. DUANE-MCNIADH: oh.... Uh oh. SHIM: odds are that we aren't our own originals. Odds are that we exist in one of those Vex simulations right now. ESI: I didn't think of that. Sundaresh: [indistinct percussive sound] Ghost fragment Vex 3 [b]From the records of the Ishtar Collective[/b] Sundaresh: I have a plan. ESI: if you have a plan, then so does your sim. And the Vex knows about it. DUANE-MCNIADH: Does it matter? If we're in Vex hell right now, there's nothing we can - SHIM: Stop talking about 'real' and 'unreal.' All realities are programs executing laws. Subjectivity is all that matters. Sundaresh: We have to act as if we're in the real universe, not one simulated by the specimen. Otherwise we might as well give up. ESI: Your sim self is saying the same thing. Sundaresh: Chioma, love, please hush. It doesn't help. DUANE-MCNIADH: Maybe the simulations are just billboards! Maybe they don't have interiority! It's bluffing! SHIM: I wish someone would simulate you shutting up. Sundaresh: If we're sims, we exist in the pocket of the universe that the Vex specimen is able to simulate with its onboard brain power. If we're real, we need to get outside that bubble. ESI: ...We call for help Sundaresh: That's right, we bring in someone smarter than the specimen. Someone too big to simulate and predict. A warmind. SHIM: In the real world, the warmind will be able to behave in ways the Vex can't simulate. It's too smart. The warmind may be able to get into the Vex and rescue - us. DUANE-MCNIADH: If we try, won't the Vex torture us for eternity? Or just erase us? Sundaresh: It may simply erase us. But I feel that's preferable to... The alternatives. ESI: I agree. SHIM: Once we try to make the call, the Vex may.. React. So let's all savor this moment of stability. Sundaresh: [indistinct sounds] SHIM: You two are adorable. DUANE-MCNIADH: I wish I'd taken that job at Clovis.

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