It looks so sexy, but utility wise, this weapon beyond blows.
Trust me, there is NOTHING exotic about this weapon.
The bad
Irons are HUGE, cumbersome, and clunky
Bolt action animation takes WAY too long
Low fire rate
Low ammo in reserves
Hit detection is off (if you have it you know what I mean)
Ammo is currently bugged where you cannot retain its maximum ammo unless you drop below its starting 18 rounds
The good
It's sexy
Some perks to help it out imo would be...
Third eye
Shoot through enemies
Semi auto (remove bolt action)
One shot body kill in crucible (in bolt action mode)
Shoot ammo to pick it up
Canted irons (switch between irons and a scope)
Just something in general to make it worthy of being exotic.
I'm still trying to use this thing, but it's rough.
Please bump this thread and keep it alive. Bungie really ought to see this because no land beyond is not only bad, but is actually broken (ammo glitch).
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Edited by BCFre: 12/18/2014 9:31:03 PMI made a similar thread a while ago. Here's the facts: [quote]Preface: yes, I have this gun and I have used/tested it extensively over the last few days. These are the reasons it is broken: 1.) It does not use the standard sniper critical modifier. Standard sniper crits are 5.0x, this gun is only 3.7x, and that's AFTER the final perk 2.) The ROF is deceptively slow. When compared to other snipers with identical fire rate (Supremacy & Ice Breaker), this gun actually fires at half the speed or slower, probably due to its bolt action mechanism and animations 3.) "The Master" upgrade does not allow you to chain kills like "Crowd Control." The modifier only applies to one hit after a kill, and does not apply to chained kills 4.) For inquiring minds, "The Master" perk offers a 15% damage increase to ONE shot after a kill[/quote] And here's my suggestions: [quote]The gun is fun as hell to use. Even the bolt action is rad. Here's some suggestions on how to fix it without sacrificing its design and animations: 1.) Raise the base impact/damage to compensate for its fire rate 2.) Change the item description to accurately reflect the fire rate (without further reducing it) 3.) Adjust the crit modifer to 5.0x base 4.) Further increase the crit modifier to 5.5x to honor "The Master" perk 5.) Allow "The Master" perk to apply to chained kills, OR increase the modifier to 25%, OR give it a timer (5-6s) that allows multiple shots This gun is cool as hell. It looks and feels exotic, however it fails to perform. An exotic primary sniper that is rather challenging (but incredibly satisfying) to use should be more rewarding. The amount of sacrifice Guardians make to even equip this gun is currently just not worth it in pretty much any scenario.[/quote]
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It's because none of our Guardians were trained on a bolt action rifle. So naturally, it takes awhile.
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Punch the air after each shot helps a little
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Theres nothing wrong with the gun, use it as a sniper and its great, treat it like an assault rifle and you will fail.
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The one shot for crucible will be over powered
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Replace it with a Barrett 50 cal.
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The time it took you to type this post. I finally emptied my first No Land Beyond magazine.
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remove the big box on the sites and widen the circles. fix the hit detection. give us 25 rounds. increase the bonus damage from a previous kill so the next shot will one shot kill no mater on placement.
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Think the only buff it needs is like a damage increase so 1 shot chest and above kills in crucible... I know this would be deemed crazy OP but it's an exotic and not that many people can snipe amazingly well in this game any way, would just bring variety to the game I guess, also needs a huge PVE buff like wow seriously
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I still really want this sniper and Black Hammer. I'm sure one will be buffed and the other nerfed in due time lol
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Keep it bolt action Make damage mental Mulligan might be worst perk, Third eye, rodeo, killing frenzy, anything is better than mulligan
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It's so bad that I can't help but laugh and become 100% confident it will receive a buff.
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I just found a glitch that turns this weapon into something decent. Check out my most recent post.
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one shot BODY shots lolololol soooo your saying you wanna be able to kill someone with even the slightest graze of a bullet rigggght..., that would be "balanced".....
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One shot body kills in the crucible? I don't know about that.
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"One shot body kill in crucible (in bolt action mode)" DO YOU EVEN PVP BRAH?
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What about an ability to poison like the Hive wizards
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if it can one shot headshot kill in crucible, then I want it. It'll practically be hawkmoon 2.0
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It's mostly fine as it is, one shot body shots is ridiculous. They just need to remove the scope sway so you can walk and ads without feeling like your waddling with hunter sized diapers on.
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The only reason I equip it is to look badass, other than that, you'd be better off having a banana as your primary rather than this.
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It zooms too much for iron sights IMO, got it last night.
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It's supposed to be that dumbass! Fully maxed it's a beast if you are any good at the game. If it ain't working for [b]you[/b] then dismantle it my friend!
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I got it yesterday. I'm not counting on it to be good at all honestly. I just use it every now and then to mess around with for kicks and giggles.