Iron banner= real thirties you worked your asses off to EARN those boots and ability to buy them Raid=you got lucky. I am a raid thirty I haven't touched the banner, I personally like the excitement of getting raid armor, but I hate that all these raid thirties are complaining about the iron banner, please shut up they actually earned their gear. I will gladly man up and say I didn't do anything to earn my gear but play on normal raids. You guys poured hours into ranking up to legit get armor, we just pray and hope we get lucky. Please stop complaining when the new raid comes out you'll be happy you have all these [b]real[/b] thirties (iron banner) able to help with the raid. Kudos to the iron banner thirties, stop whining good lord to the other raid thirties. And iron banner people don't even bother with the elitist thirties lol they got lucky like me