If a super cancels out another super than I consider it a balanced match up. For example void walker super blows up the titans bubble, titans fist of havoc killing blade dance and nothing killing resurrection. Anyways for the original poster I have to say you are completely right, I have both a warlock and a blade dancer and am pretty sure I understand the issues that a titan faces. What I wanted to say is that you are wrong about 1 point but that does not mean you are wrong about arc blade not being as good as the newbies on this forum seem to think. When you use arc blade you use the left stick to aim it so you can hit people that are behind you but it is a blind swing it isn't an auto swing, if the person aims correctly with the left analog stick they hit the person if they are close enough it doesnt auto home in on them.

I have all three classes at Lvl 30. I started off as a Hunter first (played as a Warlock in the Beta). Having time on all 3 characters in Raid a lot and in PvP. For Crucible, I now favor the Warlock the most, followed by Hunter, and lastly Titan. For Raid, I favor Warlock > Titan > Hunter. But at Atheon, I prefer Hunter due to Golden Gun. Overall, they have their Pluses and Minuses. I kind of view them as a Paper, Rock, Scissors kind of balanced imbalance. But overall, the Warlock is the most Versatile for all game modes. If I were to pick only one, it would be the Warlock. But because I started off as a Hunter in the retail Destiny game, it forced me to learn how to play Raid much more effectively, since Hunters are at a distinct disadvantage in nearly all parts of the Raid (except Gorgons and Atheon). Playing Hard Raid as a Warlock is easy now. Overall, I like having the variety, as this game is a super repetitive grind of the same sh!t over and over and over again. So I'm covering my bases to have all 3 classes ready for whatever drops in the DLC's. Not to mention not really being too disappointed when I get an RNG Armor that's often for a different class, no problem, I have one of each!

I hate moving slightly and nova bombing having my character float a little to the right and waste it on the edge of the wall in front of me, causing me to lose half shield and get killed instantly by whoever I missed. Happens a lot on Shores of time... just that god damn map for me.

Thing is I have played all 3, and Hunter is easily the best since he has the lowest amount of risk for his supers. He can activate them anywhere he likes, and wander a bit to kill with them. Titan and Warlock don't have that, you have to actually commit to using your super, and hope you actually kill your target. 1 kill is easy, but a multikill is dicey, because so many factors have to line up. Look at how many super multi kill medals each class gets and compare. That should sum up why people are so rustled by the Hunter.

I have all three characters as well, but I am not all that great at PvP so I don't play it is often as others, but I am familiar with the abilities of all the classes. The Dancer Arc Blade, to me, is a pain in the ass. There are some that are REALLY good with it and therefore take out a lot of people without dying, but that Hunter probably spends a LOT (like 4+) hours a day doing crucible and is that good with Arc Blade through practice. I don't use arc blade often and I tend to get my ass kicked before I can kill a couple people. The Gunslinger, in my opinion, is the better option because you can have 4 shots (1 hit kill) do it from a distance, and have a little time to get to more players. When using Arc Blade you have to hope there are a lot of peeps in the same area, and very rarely does a person get more than 3 kills anyway so I choose Gunslinger > BladeDancer. Titan's Ward of Dawn is more of a "Team" ability rather than an ability to "assist" in getting kills in crucible. You can give your whole team buffs which in turn will help your whole team rack up more kills faster for the amount of time that Ward of Dawn is up, b/c for some reason when people see it up, it is like a magnet drawing in everyone else. The Shoulder Charge is a fun ability to use, but with all the Shotgunners and Fusion Rifle'ers you can only get a kill with it about 50% of the time so it isn't much of an advantage, just a fun way to kill others or to see your own character get charged...lol... Hulk Smash is (I know I am going to say it) the closest thing to Nova Bomb in terms of raw killing ability in a set area. Yes the Nova Bomb can be thrown to a safe distance away from the Warlock, but if you are a good Titan, the "Hulk Smash" has an ability to throw it as well and it has a pretty significant range. "Death from Above" can be aimed quite accurately, granted you could get killed in the process, but so could a Warlock setting off a Nova Bomb. Warlock Sunsinger's best ability is, you guessed it, Fireborn....BUT...it isn't an ability like Arc Blade, Hulk Smash, Nova Bomb, in which you can kill a lot of people quickly....OR IS IT!?!?!?! lol...just messin around, but seriously when you come back from Fireborn you can 1 shot melee anyone around you about 85% of the time and that is why most people get pissed about Fireborn. The Nova Bomb is self explanitory in what it can/can't do, but it has its drawbacks as well...it is the only super you can kill yourself with if you mis-fire. The animation is a little lengthy and you can die before getting it off, and other than that is a decent super as well. I am not trying to step on any toes or claim that I am right while others are wrong, these are just my opinions since I have quite a bit of experience with all classes. Again, I don't PVP often b/c I am a PVEer and only PVP when with some buddies every once in a while. I didn't go into Grenades b/c I am sure this post is LENGTHY already and I am sorry if I wasted your time. I hope this helps some that don't have all classes. Main thing that I think is most important is that those players that use their abilities to the max (by PVPing MANY hours a day) are the ones that give the impression that "THAT SUPER IS OP" b/c of the skill they have with it. Sorry for the long post!! EDIT: I may not be 100% accurate with all this information but I am pretty confident in my explanations. Like I said, don't PVP a lot and the Invulnerableness during Nova Bomb or Fist of Havoc doesn't apply when jumping to set them off in the air which is when I meant that peeps get killed before getting it off. HAVE A BLESSED DAY!!!!!

Arc Blade isn't an instant win, but it's still the best super in PvP. I have no idea why people disagree with this and talk about it taking skill. Yeah, it's situational, but it's the best super at getting a high number of kills. I have used each class in PvP and can tell which one gets me the most kills. I have used my Titan less and also used Defender more in PvP. My stats tell me that Arc Blade is the best super. Although, I have switched between Bladedancer and Gunslinger, I'd say 80% of the time I've played in PvP as my Hunter, I've been a Bladedancer. In my total amount of kills as a Warlock, 12% of my kills are from my super. As a Hunter, 17% of my kills are from my super. Sure, you can waste your super by using it at the incorrect time or your teammates kill the people that you're going for. It's going to happen. It happens when you use Nova and Fist of Havoc, too. If I activate Arc Blade and die before I get a kill by gunfire, I have used it at the wrong time. That happens on occasion and it's my fault. A lot of the time, I die to Fist of Havoc. That's just unfortunate and there's nothing I can do about it. Even when I melee my opponent first, he survives and his super kills me. I find that I rarely die to Nova, while in Arc Blade. If I use it at the correct time, I should get at least 2/3 kills with it. Most players just stand there and shoot with an auto rifle and that is unlikely to kill me. With the perk that regens your health after every kill, you can go on a rampage. Especially if they're all in a similar area and there are no Titan's with a super ready. Pressing R1 doesn't make you lunge 10 feet, but you still auto aim towards enemy players. The auto aim isn't 100% effective, but it works the majority of the time. To be fair, though, every offensive super is very powerful. You can make complaints about Nova, Fist of Havoc and Golden Gun, too. Arc Blade is still the best and you will get the most kills with it. Unless you consistently use it at the incorrect time, but that's your fault for doing so. You can panic super with Nova and Fist of Havoc, but that will only get you one kill. It's a waste of a super. I'd actually rather someone do that than use it effectively and kill 2/3 guys. It's also rare to find a whole team grouped up and in range for a multi kill. I have never killed more than 4 people with one Nova. I have also only gotten 4 people once. I'd say 50% of the time, I'll get 2 kills with it. They don't have to be all right next to each other when using Arc Blade. You have quite a bit of time to go from one player to another and continue killing. I see quite a few complaints about Fist of Havoc on here, too, but with my experience as my Titan, it's difficult to get a decent multi-kill. Most of the time, you will die while running towards a group. It doesn't have amazing range. I find Nova better, because you can launch it from a decent distance away, due to the better range. It's just easier to die while in the animation for Nova than it is while using Fist of Havoc.

Each of your K/D's are hella atrocious. You don't know anything about balance

Blade dancer arc blade has the highest potential pay off if done correctly but its also carries the most risk in using it. FOH and Nova bomb are fire and forget, once you use it its effect is done and its instant. Titan bubble keeps you safe, as does the distance advantage you get with GG. Blade dancer must get point blank without getting killed. Sure arc blade gets a small reduction in damage but its not even enough to keep 2 players with auto rifles from killing you at 20-25 ft range before you close the gap. Most games have a class like this where its a big payoff if you utilize your ability correctly, however you pay the steepest price if your careless about when you activate it.

I'm strictly Hunter right now. I have no desire to play any other class until perhaps maybe late in the game's life (towards the release of the second) in order to get the trophies for maxing out a Titan/Warlock subclass. That being said, I have no qualms over those classes whatsoever the way that they cry about Hunter being OP. I look at it like this...Pocket, Mythoclast, ARs and Shotties were whined about to all hell for being OP and got nerfed quickly. The only thing that's been bitched about more than all of those combined is BladeDancer, and there''s yet to be anything done. It's not even been addressed. Why? [i]Because Arc Blade isn't OP.[/i] Arc Blade in PVP is not a guaranteed kill compared to Nova Bombs, FoHs and the like...and if the complainers used BladeDancer, they'd know this. But of course, they don't...and they will continue to bitch, but they will continue to be ignored.

Your title explains it all. lol got a complaint about a class? Try it yourself and figure out the pros/cons to their abilities.

I have 3 Level 29's all subclasses unlocked and have come to the conclusion. Hunters still Suck. LOL just kidding, I Use my Hunter all the time, Usually to assist the Sweeper Robot in his Missions. His K/D ration is about 50/50 usually from a run in with a chick named "Missadventure"

Amen, dude. I'm always being given crap for being a blade dancer. It's gotten to the point where i almost never use my super anymore