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Edited by Legend of Jordy: 11/21/2014 9:06:37 AM
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Should Shoulder-Charge be Nerfed? (Poll)

I'm fine seeing any of these ideas in game.

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#1, Increasing the time it takes to activate.

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#2, decreasing power, adding a push effect.

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#3, replacing power with a stagger/blind effect.

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#4, adding significant recoil damage.

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#5, keeping Shoulder Charge as it is.

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I prefer one of the community ideas posted below.

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[b]Please read each description further below before voting.[/b] There are too many people complaining about the Striker subclass and how it's, "So OP." This is a poll about a few Ideas I have that may fix the problem. ----- First off, I want to express that I feel the Striker's subclass is just as OP as any other subclass. The best solution is to stop complaining. If you ever see a Titan closing in on you in the crucible, keep distance! They can't shoulder charge you If they're hills away. Another thing you can do is double jump. The Striker's Super, Fist of Havoc, is a ground based move unlike the VoidWalker's Void Bomb. So once you see a striker activating his super, double jump away ASAP and you should be alive enough to tell the tale. ----- Unfortunately players will still complain because most of the time the Striker converges on unsuspecting prey. I understand the frustration when you die from a force that you could have not prevented. A common solution is decreasing Shoulder Charge's power so it can not one-hit an enemy. This solution, in my eyes, will never work. Every basic melee in the game already has the power to bring down an opponent within two hits. Making the perk, Shoulder Charge, not change the melee at all really defeats the purpose of it being a melee perk. I have other ideas. 1) [b]Increasing the Time it takes to activate Shoulder Charge[/b] [quote]This method will reduce the overall frequency of Shoulder Charge attacks, but will most likely have players complain about its power as usual.[/quote] 2) [b]Decreasing Power but adding in a push effect.[/b] [quote]This is a very strange idea but I think it could work. Unfortunately it would change the move completely, but maybe for the better. I was thinking of Shoulder Charge granting a perk like the Sunsinger's Solar Wind; the only problem is Solar Wind is weak sauce as it only pushes enemies a meet foot or two back, so increasing the push distance much further would be desired. This could be used to hit players off an edge which players would complain about but would feel great to the user.[/quote] 3) [b]Removing power and replacing it with a stagger effect.[/b] [quote]Much like the last suggestion, this would completely change the move you know and love. You'd hit enemies with Shoulder Charge but instead of killing them they are left staggered and blinded. This would be found very useful in Pve and Pvp situations alike. [/quote] 4) [b]Adding recoil damage[/b] [quote]The Striker's Fist as Havoc will be just as deadly as before but will take a significant amount of the users health. That way a teammate of the deceased could be very likely avenged.[/quote] 5) [b]Don't change anything, Shoulder Charge needs to stay the same[/b] [quote]This is the best option, but not the only option.[/quote] Community Idea 1) [b]No Special ammo on Respawn[/b] [quote]The main problem may not be the Shoulder-Charge, but maybe it's the combination with a shotgun. Limiting special ammo on respawn could fix the problem. [/quote] [b]Thank you for reading before commenting or voting, most of you do not, and that's fine by me. If you have any concerns, feedback, or any additional ideas for balancing Shoulder Charge, comment below, I'll place my favorite community ideas on this post.[/b] [i]P.S. I appreciate and desire your bumping and likes. Help this community and the Devs thereof realize where we stand on this matter.[/i] [i]P.P.S. Please read before commenting, don't make a fool of yourself.[/i]

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  • Necrobump to show the crybabies who are complaining about sunbreaker what they used to complain about.

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  • Necrobump

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  • ....here we go.

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    • Bias poll is bias

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    • All Titans are gunna keep as is. 90% of the community wudnt be any gud at this game without 1 hitters

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      • I only use a hunter at this stage, the titan shoulder charge is fine. When it gets me, admittedly I'm pissed. But when I stop him with my shotty, or even the few times with blink strike? Man I know he's sitting in his living room wishing he could bite my face off. This means it's balanced.

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          Its the only good perk a Titan has outside of Fist of Havok. No one hit over sheilds, no ressurection, no ranged AoE, no near invincible blade master auto aim, no ranged OHK gun, no super slide or vanishing jump, no ranged melee.... Nothing.. We have a bubble that acts as a target or an AoE special that leaves us open to be killed before it lands. So please dont nerf our one perk that we need viable space to run so it triggers, a short enough distance while its triggered so it doesnt turn off, no geometry to trip us up and turn it off, and lastly hitting a player unsuspectingly...cause any player not a complete idiot will kill a charging Titan if he attempts Shoulder Charge head on.

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          • If they added a cool down it would be fine.

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            • Wtf lol nerf everything in this damn game huh? How about nerf the price of Destiny bungie so people can stop bitching. That way they wnt have spent that much money.

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            • You, sir, are crazy...you cannot jump the Titan's super. I've been 10 feet in the air in game and still die. I think the shoulder charge being a 1 hit kill is crazy, but there's so much bullshit in crucible that this isn't any worse than the rest of it.

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              • The only reason people want it nerfed is because you look like a chump when you get killed by it. It's not over powered and the only time you can possible get killed by this is when you aren't paying a scrap of attention honestly you were dead either from shoulder charge or whatever else the titan had

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              • Leave it as it is buff hunter melee so everyone has a one hour melee instead of two classes with one left in the dark

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              • I really hate it, but I'm against nerfs. #NoMoreNerfs

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                • Shoulder charge is fine the way it is, I've been killed tons of times using mine and have killed others easily that tried to use it on me. You have to realize that when a titan commits to a shoulder charge, they're also committing to leaving themselves wide open for punishment.

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                  • Edited by daalnni: 11/21/2014 10:07:49 AM
                    No, just too many crybabies going on about it. There's about 300 nerf threads for all classes. People always look at what the other classes have to kill people with, but never their own.

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                    • Don't need to read anything else you posted on why you think Shoulder Charge should be nerfed... Bottom line YOU SUCK!! QUIT CRYING!!! OH and did I say YOU SUCK!!!! I will continue to find cry baby's like you and SHOULDER BASH your FCKIN TEETH IN!!!!! You no good no skill no back bone player QUIT CRYING NERF!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • I wish u people would stop trying to get things nerfed, either get good at the game, get a Titan character or just go play cod! I'm fed up of all u -blam!-ing moaners! Oh no I got killed by a Titan, let's try get them nerfed. Crybabies!!

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                      • Edited by Gryft: 11/21/2014 8:00:11 AM
                        Can this be somebody not bitching about our rather weak and easily countered shoulder charge? Somebody who instead of whining bout how they have a titan sticking out of their ass from a shoulder charge is actually trying to get something done. You sir/madam I applaud. And you deserve a pet fallen. But since I can't give that. I can remove the titan from your ass.

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                        • Just my opinion but on every poll I see in these threads the vast majority always vote to leave things as they are. So please leave things the way they are. Some weapons need a buff. That is all we need to nag for if we focus on that and the few problems with the raid all will be well. This pestering on minute ability obsessions achieves nothing except possible debilitating a class further down the road.

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                        • That shoulder charge is really the only reason the Stryker Titan is played in the crusible. The super generally gets players killed trying to use it (myself included). Plus, the charge is random so when I go to use it, about half the time it turns into a normal ouch or storm fist that doesn't reach you. Then, I get killed by a fusion rifle or shotgun. Another quarter of the time, someone has an over shield up, I don't kill them, they kill me. Only about quarter of the time does that shoulder charge work. Even then, I have to play smart about it so I don't end up in the open and killed. Play it before you try to get it banned.

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                          • The Titan supposedly excels in melee combat. But our special melee ability Storm Fist is not only shorter range but can't actually take out opponents if used alone. You guys have to realize what it takes to use the Shoulder Charge. We have to sprint for 3 seconds, after which we have a 4 second window to use it. Not only is it harder for us to change directions mid-sprint, but both the sprinting and finishing animation of the Shoulder Charge leaves us pretty vulnerable to other attacks. I've seen a large majority of Titans in the Crucible tend to go down right after they try to rush in with a Shoulder Charge. If you see a Titan run up to you and you can't take him out before he gets to Shoulder Charge you that's a fault of your own. If they flank get you from the side, well, you deserve it for not paying attention to your radar and surroundings.

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                          • I'll try a number 5 and please sir no wine with that.

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                            • Stfu and nerf the hunters

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                              • Wtf im not even a titan and i say hell no thats what makes them unique and it fits the profile of a titan so again i say hell no!!

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                                • can be easily countered. couple of handcannon shots or cheaper ways like a shotty or fusion.

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