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CLEAR THIS UP, RAIDERS: Double Raid Rewards?!

Yes. I got 2x Hard drops from skipping Normal Mode.

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No. I got normal Hard drops after skipping Normal.

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For those of you who have completed Vault of Glass on Hard Mode BEFORE completing Normal Mode, did you or did you not receive double loot drops? Share your experiences! I, personally, [u]did[/u] receive 2x drops from Hard Mode. Atheon dropped: -Mythoclast -Epilogue -Timebreaker -Raid Helmet [b][u]Edit 1[/u]:[/b] In the first 30 minutes we received 100 votes exactly and 87% of them said that [u]YES[/u] they did receive double rewards from completing VoG Hard Mode before VoG Normal Mode. Thanks, so much, everyone for your input! [b][u]Edit 2[/u]:[/b] After 6 hours and 400 votes 82% said that [u]YES[/u] they did receive double rewards from completing VoG Hard Mode before VoG Normal Mode. Again, thanks everyone for contributing! [b][u]Edit 3[/u]:[/b] Now after 800 votes more than 85% said [u]YES[/u] they got double rewards from completing VoG Hard Mode before VoG Normal Mode. (other than 1-3 chests that can only award rewards once which, at least, includes chest #1) [b][u]Edit 4[/u]:[/b] Over [b]1,000[/b] votes! 86% say "[u][b]YES[/b][/u]"! Do you need any more evidence than that?? [b][u]Edit 5[/u]:[/b] Over [b]1200[/b] votes. 86% say "[u][b]YES[/b][/u]"! 14% say "[i]What even is a Vault of Glass?[/i]"

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  • If you don't do normal raid you get double loot in hard raid. It's essentially giving you your normal raid loot also.

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  • Got two helmets after Atheon. So yeah double hard loot.

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  • Yup. That means you get 6 shards for beating the templar instead of 3.

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    • Why is this even a question? It's sort of like asking 2+2=4 in normal math. There will probably be about 15% that will say no to that as well.

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      • If you do the hard raid first you get normal mode rewards aswel, try normal, you will get nothing. Myth,helm~ hard. Timebreaker, epilogue.~normal

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      • Edited by TDA Wistle: 11/14/2014 8:05:18 PM
        Twice now I have received two helms after taking down atheon. Single drop at Atheon - last play through this week... 2x Helm Vex Myth PATIENCE and Time TimeBreaker Fwiw - I've only done the VOG on hard the past few weeks...

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        • So if you do hard raid first you get double drops from bosses then if you do it again on normal you can get drops again?

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          • [quote]For those of you who have completed Vault of Glass on Hard Mode BEFORE completing Normal Mode, did you or did you not receive double loot drops? Share your experiences! I, personally, [u]did[/u] receive 2x drops from Hard Mode. Atheon dropped: -Mythoclast -Epilogue -Timebreaker -Raid Helmet [b][u]Edit 1[/u]:[/b] In the first 30 minutes we received 100 votes exactly and 87% of them said that [u]YES[/u] they did receive double rewards from completing VoG Hard Mode before VoG Normal Mode. Thanks, so much, everyone for your input! [b][u]Edit 2[/u]:[/b] After 6 hours and 400 votes 82% said that [u]YES[/u] they did receive double rewards from completing VoG Hard Mode before VoG Normal Mode. Again, thanks everyone for contributing! [b][u]Edit 3[/u]:[/b] Now after 800 votes more than 85% said [u]YES[/u] they got double rewards from completing VoG Hard Mode before VoG Normal Mode. (other than 1-3 chests that can only award rewards once which, at least, includes chest #1) [b][u]Edit 4[/u]:[/b] Over [b]1,000[/b] votes! 86% say [u][b]YES[/b][/u]! Do you need any more evidence than that??[/quote] Yesterday i cleared aethoen on hard like you and got almost the same rewards as you but got the VOC instead of the Epilogue.

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            • I have only done about 10 normal raid and rest are on hard. As far as remember, I only got one piece of raid for each character. Then I made all my 3 characters to lvl 29. Then start doing hard raid every other week. If you are 29 doing raid on normal, you are doing it wrong.

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              • Didn't even beat the raid and (I have now) got enough gear to get to 30 just need shards

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              • i don't get why people respond to me like I'm an idiot when I tell them this

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                • Why are people so crazy -hard has all the loot normal has and more -if done first it will give you double drops (like 4 rewards for atheoen kinda shit) -it only pulls from hard loot but again this contains all normal loot as well (we know this from all of peoples drop slots being filled with hard loot) Imo getting double fatebringers is pointless buuut its better then only having a chance to get it in one slot

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                  • Yes u do get rewards for both normal and hard if you beat it on hard first. Not technically double rewards since the entire game works that way. If u do weekly at lvl 22 u get 3 coins then do it again at 24(whatever the lvl is) u get another 3 coins and then again at 28 u get 3 more coins but if you just do the lvl 28 first u get 9 coins at once, and if u choose to do it after at lvl 22 u dont get anything. Raid works the same way. Once u r able to do at hard. The normal one is just for funzies.

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                    • Edited by HYPNO-PANDA-: 11/16/2014 10:24:40 PM
                      While doing the raid on hard first you roll the hard loot table twice which is why it's possible to get 2 helmets or 2 timepieces.. The helmet and timepiece are not offered on normal Edit: I've also noticed that the normal raid gear I've gotten on the hard raid in most cases had slightly better stats then my original gear but this is most likely a coincidence....

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                      • Had 2 fatebringer and mida+vex from atheon. Hard mode ftw

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                        • On normal raid I got raid gloves, raid chest, patience and time and Vision of confluence =) 'twas a pretty great run

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                          • I've gotten three pieces of raid gear from normal & I haven't even completed it yet lol

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                            • It's the same concept as doing weekly heroic on lvl 28... You get all the rewards from normal from doing hard mode... From this weeks reset RNGesus blessed me with loots -hezen boots -hezen chest -fatebringer -atheons epilouge -the last word (2nd) -aspect glass -vex mythoclast (3rd) -20+ shards and energies

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                              • Edited by ZanzaJoe: 11/16/2014 7:50:05 PM
                                You get the rewards for both modes, not double hard mode. Think of it this way. When you go into normal a loot table is generated. When you defeat an event a dice is rolled to see what item you get. Same things happen on hard, only there are added items available to hard only. So when you do hard mode without doing normal you roll one dice for each table. I actually got the glass minuet and aspect of glass on the same Atheon kill. I died a little inside. [quote]You can get double hard mode rewards. Your explanation was a bit off. What happens is the hard mode loot is added, and then you roll 2x from the same loot table. Not once each.[/quote] I can see it actually being this, I wonder if it was intended though. The benefit to running hard without doing normal could be unintended.

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                                • You are loosing the chance of four extra drops but saving time by skipping the normal. It has been my experience that it is more rewarding overall if you do normal then do the hard raid

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                                  • I did normal and got two items per drop then did hard and got 2 items per drop with the exception of atheon. I got 5 from atheon drop (vex, red death, helmet, sparrow and 3 shards) all with same character and same week

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                                  • Its everything but the spirit bloom and the first chest. All others get doubles.

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                                    • Yeah no. Idk why people are saying this. Maybe for completion? But not throughout the raid.

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                                      • Yep, from Atheon fight I got: Vex Mythoclast 2x Raid Helmet

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                                      • Did hard this week and only got 3 drops from atheon battle. Titan raid helm Shards Aspect of glass Other than that I continued to get ascendant materials all the way through the raid from boss loot drops aswell as chests. The chest in the bright room at the bottom before gorgons will give 6 ascendant materials. This chest also has a higher % for weapon drop for one person in the raid team. Not guaranteed though. All other chests just drop 3 with a increased chance for something else eg cloaks and titans toilet paper.

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                                      • People might be confused because the double loot drops are from the checkpoints and the gorgon chest. So you get double loot from oracles, templer, gatekeepers, Atheon, and the good gorgon chest. You still only get the opening chest, the gorgon chest in the maze, and the 5th chest once.

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