Frankly, I think the people complaining about this weapon's health regen aren't using Red Death correctly. It's not meant to make you a run and gun tank where every single kill regens a huge chunk of your health regardless of whether or not you are currently taking more damage. The point of this gun is to stay somewhat behind cover and avoid taking a lot of damage at once. That way, when you take a few smaller hits and your health is around half, you can quickly pick off a tier 1 enemy with 1 or 2 bursts and instantly start rapidly regaining all your health as you retreat. This weapon is meant to keep your health constantly topped off during encounters that include a reasonable number of smaller enemies. I've been using this weapon for months and it has become one of my favorite guns. Small side note: most people probably don't know this, but Red Death is awesome for Crota's End. When the Presence of Crota stops health recovery, Red Death's regen perk will still heal you TO FULL HEALTH on every kill. Even if you don't have the chalice. Edit: I forgot to mention my thoughts on this gun in PvP. I've used it quite a bit both pre and post patch. Pre-patch, it was a pretty decent gun, IF you were accurate enough to hit headshots. Two bursts to the head would down someone, which was actually a pretty short time to kill. Post-patch, I don't like it quite as much. They lowered the impact and increased the fire rate, which means that it now takes a minimum of three bursts to kill. This is not a good weapon to use if you consistently try to take on multiple enemies simultaneously. With two people shooting at you, the health regen from the perk will be immediately canceled after you kill one player because the other player is still hitting you. However, this gun can shine in PvP if you know how to use it. You need to choose your battles carefully so that you can win a one-on-one gun fight, pop behind cover while your health quickly regens, and then pop back out to take on the next player. If you chain your kills correctly, you can take on 2 or more players in a row, while quickly regaining all your health between each kill. Problem is, you can't predict every encounter correctly and two people shooting you at once is enough to get you killed with this weapon unless you're a very good pulse rifle player.

Bump i just got it from VoG and it needs a buff

Gotta love how they nerfed it harder than the Suros Regime. I guess bungie hates Halo 2 and 3 fans so much that they have to completely crush any weapon resembling the battle rifle. They love CoD fans though, stable ARs have been the ABSOLUTE BEST pvp gun since the beginning despite being the lowest skill weapon that and discouraging headshots. Yeah, once in a blue moon you get killed by the odd Last Word or Hawkmoon but the auto aim on hand cannons makes it pretty easy so I still find myself almost happy whenever I die to a pulse rifle. Bungie just wants to make the game accessible to terrible players that only know how to spray and pray, while those of us who were expecting a game that would stay fresh, cool and fun for a few years were expecting something with a slightly higher skillcap. Oh well, I'm sure a similar but but more balanced game will surface eventually. I still have some faith in the company but every time I play pvp I get so frustrated at whores who crouch in corners with a suros, a found verdict and a hezen vengeance who teabag every time they get a kill. I'll get Dark Below but if they don't show more dedication towards properly refining the third of a game that we payed a premium price for, I'll just move on to a better game from a company that more closely resembles the company I though bungie was.

Even if the health regeneration stops, it gives a buff for your reload speed which is pretty nice. Beginning and ending of crotas end are a breeze with it.

I would have loved if Red Death had a punch option where you could stab or slash with the rifle. Why is there a bloody bayonet on the rifle if its just for show? I mean I thought the description of the gun was awesome when you read that its ordered to be destroyed on site. What about an option to make different types of rounds that make your gun able to shoot Void, Solar, Arc, and Kinetic. At least this would make your weapon that much more diverse.

I just fully upgraded my Red Death a couple days ago and used it in Crucible. I can say that the health regeneration perk does work; several times it really helped me in tight spots; it doesn't work well when you're fighting more than one enemy because they constantly keep your health down, but in a one on one fight it works great. I was able to sustain my average K/D in maybe 4 out of 6 or 7 games. Anyway, I think it's a good gun and I've seen the health regeneration perk in action, both in PvE and Crucible. One piece of gear that I feel has false advertisement though is Apotheosis Veil, the Warlock helmet that's supposed to regenerate your health after you activate your Super. I got it up to that perk, and every time I was taking a ton of damage and set off my Nova Bomb, I didn't see my health go up an inch even after all the shooting was done; this has happened both in Crucible and PvE. While for me Red Death works fine, but that helmet was a major disappointment.

This was the gun I took into my first raid, it was terrible. I was at Atheon and switched to a legendary scout rifle and suddenly my crit hits were better. The Red Death needs a rof boost and maybe a slight boost to impact. As for the health regen ... Oh well.