Weapons should be OP if you have put the time in to get them. players complaining about them have probably not had a chance to use them yet as i have played over 148hrs and only just got suros regime :D and its pretty good but i do have sympathy for players with familys and who work (like me) who cant always put the time in to obtain these weapons as players who are always online tend to get better guns faster which upsets the balance maybe bungie should hold back on the nerfs and buff some other weapons because if players keep moaning [spoiler]like royal turds[/spoiler] we will end up with frigging pea shooters for players with crap guns stick close to team mates claim bountys with the weapons you want to rank up selected and work together if you are a lone wolf dont cry when you die its a team based objective not COD which is pay and spray moan like a girl and demand that activison/bungie "fix your broken game" while calling every other player a "-blam!- cheat" because your running a 0.67kdr like who really gives a -blam!- about kd Hitler had a KD of 3million and no one liked that -blam!-.