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Edited by SalineVampire: 10/23/2014 12:26:54 PM
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"Dad Gamer" Old school gamer with new school attitude

Post script: I have yet to see a single post ridiculing me for having "gamer dad" as an identifying marker in this OP. My being a gamer dad is in no way relevant to this post and adds nothing except I used it as bait. Weird..... I saw something today while browsing the forums and it bothered me….a lot. Bothered me so much and to such a core level that I am making my first OP. When did we as gamers forget who we are and what we were at one time? Does anyone remember the horrible stigma we used to have and still have to a certain degree? When did we as gamers forget that we all had our own identities? Some of us go to college. Some of us work 9-5 or 7-3 or however our schedule is. Some of us are married. Some of us are single. Some of us are black. Some of us are Hispanic or Asian or Native American or Indian or Middle Eastern or whatever. Some of us are female. Some of us are trans gendered. Some of us are gay/lesbian/bi. Some of us are Atheist/Agnostic/Christian/Catholic/Baptist/Muslim or whatever. Some of us are older. Some of us are younger. Basically we are all different and unique in our own ways. We are all gamers, but we all have our own identities. We all have life experiences and beliefs that make us….different. So when someone identifies themselves with a post (girl gamer, Muslim gamer, black gamer) and we as a COMMUNITY do not embrace the fact that we are different and instead disparage the OP for having an identity other than GAMER, it saddens me. When did we forgot who we are and allow one single identity (GAMER) define us? When did we as gamers forget the BS we have gone through or still go through for being…gamers? How does someone identifying themselves in a post negatively affect your life? Do you not want to see someone else’s views? Did we become so closed off from the world that we have one track thoughts and views? Don’t you remember being young and talking about gaming only for someone to tell you that gaming was worthless? Or better yet, because you were a gamer you’d amount to nothing? I personally enjoy the shit out of hearing other people’s views, especially when they are not in my own demographic. Who they are and what they are is so different than who and what I am that their opinions fascinate me. I may debate with them their views, but I’d never degrade them for who they are. When we as a community call people f.ags or make stupid sexist remarks or call people n.iggers or spics or retards….we are failing. The gaming community should be the one community that is embracing everyone’s differences not disparaging them. If you believe all they are doing is “seeking attention”…..ignore them. No harm will befall you for not replying to something. What you may wind up doing is pushing a fellow gamer that felt comfortable identifying themselves out of the gaming community. Why do that? What purpose does that serve? I’ve asked a lot of questions in this post. That was purposeful. Answer them to yourself….remember what it was like or still is like for you to be identified as ONLY a gamer. How did you feel? Edit: As regarding the OP that this post stemmed from. Whether it was for attention or not is a moot point. The issue is the disrespect and denigrating attitude because the OP identified as female when there is absolutely no difference between her doing that and a gamertag with gender identifying markers. The point is that people felt compelled to quash what the OP said because the OP had the -blam!-ing gall (how dare she, right? Let's put her in her place) to identify as female. Do you not see why that's asinine? [b][/b]You're allowed to be an <insert gamer sub catagory here> as long as you don't overtly advertise which catagory you fall into. We will turn a blind eye to gamertags, but keep your trap shut in the subject and post. Kthanx.[b][/b] That's ridiculous.
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  • I'm not embracing the terrorist gamers

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    • What about gamer moms?!

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      • Edited by Mikhaila StS: 10/23/2014 6:12:38 PM
        This is just my view. I think that gamers, (not all!) nowadays don't think of the person behind the "avatar" some feel they can treat anyone like trash as there are no consequences. I also think the reason she got bashed was that there was a "female' poster earlier that was being very attention seeking and trollish just to get a rile out of everyone.

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        • I guess you don't like my name lol

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          • Agreed. What's wrong with saying you're a "female gamer" if you are?

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          • TL;DR I used to be insulted for playing video games 10+ years ago as a female, this generation of gamers is much more accepting. Wipe the nostalgia off your face because, the gaming community has in fact become much more accepting in the past few years.

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            • Your inability to comprehend why, in this age of equality, using your gender/age/race to identify you (when it is absolutely not needed) is counter-productive and reeks of attention-seeking, is impressive. Kudos (from a Caucasian-American-heterosexual-male-of-average-height and below-average-PvP-skills gamer)

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              • Good post I am not a teen or a young adult, I'm older. Yes I am a gamer and sometimes people look sideways at me when I admit I enjoy videogames. However gaming is just a part of me it does not define me. Its merely an activity that I enjoy and I indulge in gaming a lot because of its accessibility and availability. I enjoy fishing but no one calls me a fisherman. The term gamer seems to be fashionable. I don't know maybe I am wrong. As for forums I enjoy the diversity the praise the bitchiness, the inventiveness of others even racism it is who we are as humans we are everything the WONDERFUL, the GOOD, the BAD and the UGLY. If you do not identify with any of these four then perhaps your not human. :)

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              • Actually the Internet ( or the world wide web :) and MMO's like Everquest , Knight Online, Everquest 2 was all about the fact that you did not know Who the person on the other end of the line was ! you did not know if they were Male or Female, you did not know their Race or their Religion , all you knew was their Screen name , and that was what made the Web and what made MMO's so fantastic back then as you could not judge people by any of those normal identifiers Nobody use to use their real name on the Internet 10+ years ago, everyone had made up names , and the same with MMO's back then , everyone had Character names ( now games like Destiny force you to use your Playstation Name , luckily my PSN name is the Character name i have used for years in MMO's : ) and you only knew the players in the game by their character names there was no voice chat , there was only the keyboard , and it was a glorious time to be on the Web and be Gaming in MMO's back then people use to Roleplay heavily in MMO's with there keyboards they could become the Barbarian, they could become the Dark Elf ,, and nobody knew if the 300 pound muscle laden Barbarian was really a 90 pound petite indian woman in Real life, and nobody knew if the Dark elf was a grandpa or a teenager . now everyone uses their real name as their Email . and their screen name and gamertag on PSN is usually either their name or yoloswag3000 we didn't use Avatars in MMOs we Created "Characters" and played them for years those days are gone and the internet and mmo's are now drama central , everyone wants you on voice chat and you go it and you have to listen to someone crunching on potato chips and burping and cursing , another thing is the social networking that has ruined the internet , everybody needs to constantly post pictures of themselves, where they are , what they are doing, etc ,etc , PS4 next large update they are adding one of the most annoying features from facebook/twitter = "people you may know " based on your friends list it will suggest people you might know or want to know ,,,,, NO THANKS ,,, I play Games to get away from crappy Social network sites ,, i hope there is a way to turn this feature off . anyway , i dont care what you look like, i dont care if your a guy or a girl , i dont care if your white, orange , green, blue ,, i dont care what your religious beliefs are ,, if i wanted to meet people in any of those categories there is an entire internet filled with Forums on each of those classifications . I just want to play video games with anonymous people that i know nothing about and that is what use to makes MMO's so fantastic " Gralthorp the Sage" <--- Everyone thought he was a 40 year old guy living in his mothers basement gaming at his command station but it turns out that "Gralthorp" was actually 22 year old head cheerleader for the Dallas Cowboys ( but nobody ever knew , and we liked it that way ) someone that Posts up " IM A GIRL GAMER " in a post in big flashing neon lights , they obviously wanted attention , and they got it , and people that seek attention don't care if its positive or negative as long as they are the center of attention, if it wasn't for the " Girl" part in the post that thread would have died away with no replies . now i miss old style MMO'ing with mouse and keyboard , with no voice chat and no clue who anyone really was, those were some great times, /pours out some Meed for the long deceased Giralus De'Gallus :( you fought well my Shadowknight , may your eternal slumber give you the peace you so deserve .

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                • From OtsuExodus: "Calling someone out as a female gamer attention seeker is the Internet Forum equivalent of pigtail pulling." That tells you everything you need to know. These guys are just now getting hair in strange places and are experiencing all of these new emotions. It is hard for them to express themselves due to their upbringing, which was basically the Playstation as a babysitter. Traditionally they would just suffer in silence throughout their young adulthood, but the internet gives everyone a voice.

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                  • Edited by Carbum: 10/24/2014 1:27:42 AM
                    No child left behind generation. Someone put a post up about it before and it's absolutely true. Remembering back to Vanilla Wow.. the community was excellent until they dumbed it down and then the flood of entitled baddies came in and destroyed what the community spent years to build in a few short months. Unfortunately these days... that same crowd is here.. hints why these boards are flooded with tears of children who want a medal for participating instead of working hard to achieve greatness. They want glimmer on a snap card and a check for strange coins every month on the 1st.

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                    • Tl;Dr don't care

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                      • I'm a still going through divorce, getting married again, full-time college student ex-military gamer dad. but i just say Gamer. it's a lot shorter.

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                        • Except you don't see people saying "hey I'm a white middle class male. Anyone wanna do a raid?". People should be caring of others differences but people shouldn't broadcast their differences for whatever reason. Though honestly saying people are doing it for attention gets a bad rep. It's part of our nature to want to feel meaningful to others(getting attention), so maybe some may not get much attention from parents or at school so they maybe act the way they do on the internet.

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                          • I kind of get it and I kind of don't either. "The point is that people felt compelled to quash what the OP said because the OP had the -blam!-ing gall (how dare she, right? Let's put her in her place) to identify as female. Do you not see why that's asinine?". Female or not, play the damn game. I don't see the point in identifying as a female, or male, for that matter. Who cares? The only person that's gonna care is the person that wants the attention. In my experience, females do tend to sway the "attention boat" just because they are a female. Does that stop me from playing with them? Depends. If it's just some guy being a retard, no. But if the girl is blatantly trying to get attention, I'll boot her, or something a long those lines. Should everyone do what I do or believe in what I believe? Nope. But the game I play is simply that. My game to play. So, if I feel that a female is being too dramatic about things and all that good stuff, yea, they are gone. Just like a male playing games, its nothing special that a woman plays games. And it's mostly the younger generation. Which they imo deserve a swift kick in the ass. The way they treat people. The way they say things. The way they say do this, instead of asking. Entitlement lol. Any of you younger generation reading this, remember, this isn't pointed to the ones that aren't like that. That have manners. That don't think the world owes them something simply because they were born into this world. For all of you that believe that someone owes you something, I hope that life works out for you. Its gonna be a rough life for you.

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                            • If you get upset from people saying stupid things on the internet then you're going to have a hard time in the real world. When people look for attention, they get it; sometimes it's negative, deal with it. #workingclass4life

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                              • I see more people talking about how sexism/whatever is bad than I see people who are sexist/whatever.

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                              • Hear. Hear. Cyber high 5 for you buddy.

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                              • Well said. To the quoted comment at the bottom of your post; That sounds a lot like don't ask don't tell. I can be whatever I want, as long as I don't actually let anyone know what that is...classy.

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                              • Edited by Sarge 104: 10/23/2014 8:00:57 PM
                                This comment took me about 3mins to write. However, I could have replied in 10s with a reply with no substance. You don't know who I am, nor do I know you? When everybody is entitled and has easy access to anomyous comments, it is easy to understand why you get so many negative remarks. When somebody calls another a fa.g or whatever it's just that they cannot articulate their viewpoint any better. An insult with no backing is the easiest way to disagree with somebody. Some people like being the faceless gamer. It is a retreat of sorts.

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                                • Just remember we are gamers first when it comes to each other.

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                                • well said, OP. thanks for taking the time to make your post!

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                                • Calling someone out as a female gamer attention seeker is the Internet Forum equivalent of pigtail pulling. It's really done to say, "I'm interested and would like to hear more... like whether you are really a dude, since the last two online girlfriends I had were as well and it would displease me to yet again get the long end of the stick" ^_____^

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                                  • Unfortunately a large part of any games player base will almost always be a younger, immature crowd (or even more unfortunately, immature older crowd). Especially at those younger ages there seems to be an ever growing contest of E-Peen length/girth (or so it seems...). As much as I applaud the wonderfully written post you have made, I do believe that the crowd intended to receive this message will either not read it, or will come on and flame you for it.

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                                  • This reminded me of a thought I had while reading a "female gamer thread." So many girl gamers complain about online flirting or that guys look at them as someone they can have a relationship with but they never explain when, why or in what setting it's ok to do so. In theory it's a perfect place to form an early relationship with someone and get to know that person. The anonymous nature of the internet actually works out to be helpful in these setting because you don't have a face or a status or anything you can really go on to "pre-judge" someone. You have just their personality and that's it, it seems like the perfect way to REALLY get to know how someone wants to be or is. A perfect example example is a guild member I met in wow. At face value the guy is a complete ass-hole. But If he get to know him you learn he doesn't have a very good life and it's his first defense to make sure no one gets too emotionally close to him. BUT if you do he ends up being one of the nicest most helpful people in that guild taking significant time and resources of his to teach or just help people do the stuff they want to do. So you see where I'm going with this I hope.

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                                    • The Bungie forums, where gender roles in gaming are thoughtfully discussed and the landscape of ignorant opinions is radically altered. Said nobody. Ever. Kidding aside, more power to the girl gamers out there--let the haters hate. Kudos to the OP for shedding light on an interesting topic. --signed, some heterosexual white dude.

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