[b]There are only two guns which take some effort and skill to obtain, on top of very good luck:-[/b]
[b]Thorn[/b] and [b]Invective[/b]
[b]All other guns can be earned with no skill and no effort.[/b]
In fact, apart from the other exotic bounties (which are easy and require no skill whatsoever), all other weapons can be and often are earned by people who are AFK in Crucible or Strike playlists, and people who get the lowest score in Crucible, etc! (I do not include guns which are exclusively raid loot in this post.)
[b]Therefore, in the coming exotic weapon buff, would Bungie please buff Thorn and Invective to the special status they both deserve in the game.[/b]
The buff on each of these two weapons should arguably be commensurate with the slightly different difficulty levels in obtaining them. At present you can get better results with some blue trash weapons than you can with these so-called exotics which are harder to earn than all the other guns! That is patently absurd. Destiny pre-raid should be a game that rewards time and effort, not just grinding or pure luck.
Unfortunately, the last Hotfix did the precise opposite, because [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/73125415/0/0/1]Bungie has actually nerfed Invective[/url]! The nerf of the weapon type overall was needed, but Invective was underpowed before that and the result of the patch was to substantially exacerbate the problem. Other stats should have been buffed to reduce the impact of the overall weapon type nerf which translates directly into fewer kills and more deaths for users of Invective.
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And in the next patch, Invective will be nerfed even more! It will become useless along with all shotguns. Invective, one of the few weapons that has to be actually earned, will be beaten every time by weapons somebody got from a vendor or as a reward for losing.
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This has been necroed
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Necroed
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Lmaooo NecroBump
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Edited by PBGellie: 10/22/2015 2:30:54 PMDude invective is really good... Edit: wow, didn't realize how old this thread is. Who necro'd this?
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Get good you scrub
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Bump love it
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Edited by Akira: 10/21/2015 10:17:38 PM[b]No[/b]. [b][u]Thorn[/u][/b]: The gun was bad in the beginning, and it was buffed and made too powerful. It's great where it is. Besides, it wouldn't matter, it's not even Year 2. Bungie needs to focus on balancing weapons that affect Trials of Osiris and Iron Banner. [b][u]It's fine where it is[/u][/b]. [b][u]Invective[/u][/b]: Shotguns are still dominant in crucible, the last thing any of them need is a buff. Full auto, high range, decent impact, and full auto are the reason people already use it as much as they do. [b]It's fine where it is[/b]. Neither of these weapons need to be changed, at all. If you're asking a buff for Thorn, I'm betting you were one of the people that ruined the crucible in that meta. And Invective? Let me guess, shot package was taken out and now you want to replace it will full auto. How about [b]no[/b].
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Ummm you forgot bad juju.. I have all three my friend and bad juju is the absolute worst. Thorn needs a reload and clip size buff and they need to buff the thorns "poison" damage. The invective needs a reload speed perk atleast and to fix the bug that it won't actually regenerate ammo, other than that that guns fine. But bad juju.... Bad, mother fluffin, juju... I'm simply to lazy and upset about this dumpster fire of a gun to list all things wrong with this "gun"
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I think they are fine now
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To be clear. Did you just ask Bungie to buff a shotgun? Follow up question, can I buy some weed from you?
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Invective?!? I heard meth wa one hell of a drug!
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The consensus is that invective deserves to be buffed.
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Thorn? Yes invective? No trust me i use invective in pvp and pve and its fine the way it is
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Edited by Omni: 10/24/2014 1:40:05 PMThe bad JUJU is worse then any other gun in the game period.
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Thorn is a piece of crap. Invective has a range of 2 ft.
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Still no buff for these hard-earned exotics! I'm better off using random weapons I earned by being AFK and losing a game with zero kills.
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Invective doesn't need a buff....
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Invective bounty was ridiculously easy
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Agreed
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Bad juju needs love too...
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The Invective was ridiculously OP in PvP before the patch, and it's still good. The bounty is one of the easiest to complete. I have completed it 3 times for 3 Invectives.
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I prefer hide and seek to invective.
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YEEEEEES I agree I tried so hard for the invective and it takes 2 shots? I've seen a black chasma do better with a 1 shot