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Edited by blackbox900: 12/20/2014 6:24:27 AM
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Origin of the Exo and the Future war cult *spoiler*

[u]Off Topic:[/u] Link up top is some thoughts on [b]"the Darkness".[/b] [b]Magic v Science[/b] [url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76002896/0/0/1[/url] on [b]"The Collapse/Rasputin"[/b]: [url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/73449419/0/0[/url] on [b]The first War[/b]: [url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76624813[/url] on [b] The "Epic" Fails of Pve[/b] [url]http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/74697603/0/0[/url] (no lore) [url]https://twitter.com/espresso2k12[/url] (hit me up if you know stuff i dont, one thing good that came of the lack of story is the debates^^) On topic^^: some info from a few different cards, Synopsis: So as far as I can gather, humanity had a "device" which enabled them to see the future or futures. Golden age probably and they knew something way off and bound to cause a problem (darkness most likely). This prompted the creation / use of this Device. In 11 of the observed futures, the darkness won (more poetically phrased in the cards^^). 1 or 2 futures where fine, but for the most part things looked grim. Problem was humans weren't able to cope with the visions the "device" gave them, depending on their nature and severity. Some survived, but most died and the program was abandoned until The Future war Cult was Founded By survivors, haunted by what ever they saw. They Created the Exo, in order to gain more information through this "device" and in turn prevent the darkness ending life on earth. Human minds were to frail and struggled with what they saw. The Exo however could handle it. They were created for it. The vex are synthetics and are able to mess with time, so the exo should be at least able to observe time and not go insane. Even if they'd go insane, exo can reset their memories. Don't know what came first tho. The Problem or the device. The Future war cult beliefs war is the future because they saw [u]a lot[/u] of futures at one point. This all happened pre-collapse. i think. [u][b]*(see post 2)[/b][/u]

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    • Some of this matches up, with the Device and the Exo both being created within the Golden Age. You pointed out the Device's origin's in Tibet, Exo mention their Golden Age birth on the Exo card [quote]Exo: "Ask yourself: what threatened your Golden Age ancestors so much that they constructed the Exos to defend themselves?"[/quote] However, Ghost Fragement: Exo contradicts the idea by explaining that Exo have human minds. Even going as far as to point out the difference between the Exo and Vex minds. [quote]Exo minds are human. It is incontrovertible. You know what I smell on you? I smell the stink of anthropocentrism. I think you think that there's only one way to think. That's why the Exo mind is so human, you presume. Because all higher thought converges. My friend, you should meet the Vex. There is nothing human in them.[/quote]

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      • Edited by blackbox900: 10/30/2014 1:22:48 PM
        Post 2 : My previous summation may be a bit off, let me explain. [b]Ghost fragment: Exo [/b] [b]"Hi. Thanks for your interest. I'm recording this for posterity. Warlock thanatonauts die and come back with insight. I'm going to attempt the same process to get at buried memories. Specifically, I'm going to fire a charged particle beam into my head and see what comes out. We Exos have been around a very long time. I want to know what's in there. My Ghost is standing by to repair me. Okay. Three two one STAG echo six SWORD sierra nine SERPENT We are falling into the world. Everyone is on fire. There's a ship above us but it's coming apart just like a flower, alloy and fusion flash, pierced through and through - The voice says Atmospheric interface. Trajectory nominal. Rabid two three you are outside the window. (I think I am the voice) I can see the whole earth below me and the sky we are falling out of is black without stars. Ghost, shoot me again. RAPID four RAMPART four RATCHET tango eight zero We are on the ice. This is elsewhere and elsewhen. There is a mighty aurora and it is reflected in the ice so I walk between two fires although the one below is cracked and full of corpses. I have and am a weapon." [/b] So what i get out of this that at least this exo crashed somewhere where nothern lights are seen at this point in time which could be anywhere (lets say tibet). The thing is it explicitly says exo are fashioned in humanities image by [b]Whoever built them[/b]. Some of the Exo memories that are in the fragments are slightly hostile towards earth so i do have doubts. Maybe they got "brainwashed" into helping us turning them against their original goal , i'm conflicted, need more info. [b]"Some of us go to the tower in peace. They walk through a field of golden millet and a low warm wind blows in from their back. I don't know why this is, because: The rest of us meet an army."[/b] [b]"Often I kill people I don't know, but like most of us I think I knew them once, in the time before one reset or another, when my mind was younger and less terribly scarred."[/b] Exo can reset their memory banks to the point of not knowing themselves. so it stands to reason that we maybe have enemy in our midst. [b]"Up in the sky there is a hole in Jupiter and it tears at me when I look at it. It tears at me. It is hungry. Maybe the hole is not in Jupiter but in me." The Hole on Jupiter is key.[/b] [b]Deepstone crypt[/b] [b]"You can ask others about Deep Stone and they'll tell you about the army. They might confess one truth, which is this: we have to kill the army to get to the tower. Usually this starts bare-handed, and somewhere along the way you take a weapon." "So that is how we go back to the Deep Stone Crypt, where we were born." [/b]- Ghostfragment Deepstone Crypt Now i know it is not mentioned in the card itself but on on item it states [u]Deepstone Crypt is where the exo where created[/u]. I would bet cash money that thing will be on jupiter and Exo story related. i rest my case.

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        • Edited by blackbox900: 10/12/2014 5:08:45 AM
          2nd edit : Deep stone crypt is where Exo were "born" Deep Stone Crypt (item) quote: A badge illustrating the infamous subroutine which seeded the first Exo consciousness Legends Ghost fragment quotes: "This is the tower where we were born. Not the Tower. Just a tower in a dream." "We go to the tower in dreams but that doesn't mean it's not real." "Some of us go to the tower in peace. They walk through a field of golden millet and a low warm wind blows in from their back." "The rest of us meet an army" "Often I kill people I don't know, but like most of us I think I knew them once, in the time before one reset or another, when my mind was younger and less terribly scarred. So that is how we go back to the Deep Stone Crypt, where we were born."

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          • "This as all happened before...and it will happen again." Name that quote.

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            • A.I. related Off topic: What the heck are the cabal? I can't tell if they're machines or aliens in armor or Hybrids. "The Military" Race but i don't really know anything else. why are they on mars? to kill us or the vex?

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              • Ty for this. Interesting little read.

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                • There's a reason that robo bitch hates the vex and her gun says its from the future.

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                  • Edited by blackbox900: 10/8/2014 11:07:48 PM
                    Post 2: Found the card, Ghost fragment: Future war cult Small edit, it all happened after Golden age. The "War Cult" found this device and turned into the "Future War Cult" after using it. The origin of the thing was golden age Tibet. "We have applied certain refinements to the Device. Novarro found records of a prototype of the Device at a Golden Age laboratory in Tibet, and Hari's team retrieved what was left of it. We are the first to see it operational in who knows how long. Too many subjects come back damaged. Mad. We are grasping at straws. What do you think, little Ghost?" "Forty-seven human subjects; eleven report timelines in which the Darkness has already prevailed, thirteen report timelines in which the City has fallen. Twenty-three babbled madness. Hopeless. Trapped." "No wonder the Device was abandoned. The human mind is too weak for it. Too weak to look into the Future, or to understand what it sees. What the situation calls for, little Ghost, is a better sort of witness." - Some Short quotes from the card I'd post the whole thing but it's a bit lengthy^^ just wiki if intrested

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                  • I hate the idea of knowing the future. Humans will always look, and then try to change it in fear, and create the same damn future through their fear.

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