[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the omega man117 Halo 1 requires you to actually use some sort of tactics in a place where those tactics don't seem very obvious. Some of these would include: using a grenade to make the zealot evade off of the bridge on AOTCR, precise grenade jumping to get to a higher elevation to pick of enemies (works great on Halo (level) with the sniper rifle, forcing an elite to take cover with continuous AR fire while you or your marines flank around to take him out, using the hog as a weapon (rarely applicable in Halo 2), [/quote]True. And let's not forget about the Goldie on the bridge on Two Betrayals. It is possible to get him to dive off. Small arms fire was much more effective in CE as it caused them to do their evasive maneuver rather than being bullet sponges. In the AotCR megabattles, if you have marine support, they will cause the Elites to dodge a lot. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the omega man117 using two plasma grenade to launch one of the grenades over a massive distance, ect. ect. [/quote]Can you name a scenario where that can be used? If I had to make a guess, it would be the first ground battle on AotCR, on those 2 Ghosts on the other side or on the 1st frozen lake Wraith, right?