It's not an MMO.

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Six players is not massive multiplayer. Therefore Destiny is not an MMO. Noone wants to hear you cry.

If this game is an mmo then Bungie have made one of the worst mmos ever.

TL:DR all I can tell from this is: 1. you buttrage HARD if someone says this game isn't an MMO. FYI, it's actually a "shared world shooter" and I believe Bungie themselves said that. 2. you think that PC players don't complain. really? you obviously weren't around when PC gamers were on their knees begging for GTA V to come to their "rigs". i can still hear "PC plz" in the corners of my brain. 3. you are an elitist. and my favourite part 4. you wrote a whole essay full of complaints, and claim that you aren't complaining. you are killing my brain cells with your stupidity.

I agree as well

Big respect for voicing your opinion in this console jockey arena. I mirror your sentiments entirely. Your knowledge also dictates a gamer who actually realises the game Destiny was intended. Thank you for this post , it shows there are others out there that are true gamers.

It's not even an MMO idiot. Just by that alone your argument is invalid

The game being an MMO or not, isn't important. Like, at all. MMO describes scale of player base, not define the game as a genre. This game is an FPS-RPG. Also, Diablo isn't an MMO either. It's a dungeon Crawler, with match making.

I read your mmo aspect part, and those are rpg aspects. Mmo is strictly server hosting. Please stop confusing the two.

Idk but yes

It's not an mmo. Talk to Bungie

I think your just mad that its equal playing field in the crucible now and you can't stomp all over people because your weapons give you an advantage from higher fire rate and less recoil. PvE and PvP should be totally separate. That's where they screwed up. They should have made a traditional MP where everyone starts equal and take out all these cheap one hit kills. To prove my point primaries are useless until you get legendary/exotic gear. The multiplayer now should be a type of game mode in PvP.

You are the biggest whiner of all.

Funny you call it an MMO. Didn't bother to read shit bc you obviously don't know what an MMO is or what the definition of massive means r tard.

Not MMO, there said it come crucify me. Its a coop based loot and shoot, defiance was an MMO when ya had 100s if not more bashing the big guy. Spent so much time writing this. Your one track mind failef to realize it. Tacos rule

[quote]DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT AN MMO? WHAT ABOUT MY OTHER PARAGRAPHS? It's like arguing with idiots. [/quote] How do you think we feel when we try and tell you that it is not a MMO? Exactly, it's like arguing with an idiot. [quote] You made one point, which is completely irrelevant to everything else I'm saying. Dummies, pure dummies. [/quote] Oh really, it's irrelevant to your other points, which all point towards you saying this is a MMO, Genius, pure genius. [quote]OK, another point than everyone is making is that once again everyone is saying it isnt an MMO... OTHER than the fact that there isnt largely populated areas this has ALL KINDS of MMO aspects. Give me one shooter that has come out that you get drops for guns... ill wait for it..... Oh Cod Battlefield Gears and everything else alike you got XP and leveled up and unlocked stuff? oh what a suprise. This game is an MMO at heart regardless of the server size.... [/quote] It's not a MMO at heart though is it, it's a crossover game, a game that takes the best from 2 different genres and melds them together. It's a game that will appeal to WoW players as well as CoD players, which are 2 of the largest gaming communities in the world, so it makes sense that they would be the target audience. [quote]Which results in my entire argument that everyone is coming over here and trying to change the game from the way it was intended from release. I GAURANTEE if i was playing this on PC no body would be complaning at all because the drop rate is incredibly generous even before the patch!![/quote] What a load of crap. The game is meant to be somewhere in the middle, so people like you are also trying to change the game. It's not meant to be a grindfest where the best people are the ones with no life who can put 12 hours a day into the game while they sit at their screens all googly eyed with the remnants of last nights pizza all down thier stained white t-shirt and a 6 pack of mountain dew at the side of them to get them through the next 6 hours. It's also not meant to be a game that you can just pick up and complete without having to think, or put time in. It's meant to be somewhere in the middle. [quote]This is not the game for you![/quote] It's also not the game for a hardcore WoW player who expects the game mechanics and difficulty to be similar. [quote]oh and im " whining about whiners." Im making an arugment which has frusturation in it and this post has nothing to do or even relates to other people who are on here complaing about the game. I LOVE THE GAME. Its awesome! yes and i have my other opinions about the story not being enough and no private servers or enough crucidible game modes but as the game is i love the way it plays and everything about it. Im not crying to bungie asking them to change everything, im addressing those people who are trying to change the game im not in any form complaining about this game. Your point of me complaning is so stupid and nobody has made any valid argument about any of my other points. GO ahead and roast my grammar to i didnt realize i was trying to write an essay to impress you i was writing a quick post.[/quote] If you truly loved the game, you'd not be giving the whiners more and more bait. You'd not be relentlessly arguing with others about the game being a MMO or not, you'd not be wasting your time on here typing out a full chapter of what is mostly drivel. Also, saying that you are only addressing those people who are trying to change the game is a bit strange, as you are addressing yourself without realising it. [quote]THIS is not the game for 80% of the community ! you guys dont like this game! so your trying to change it to adapt. you hit level 30 in three days than what?!?![/quote] Yeah, the biggest selling franchise launch game of all time is only for 20% of the people. Don't talk so wet, if the devs chose to only cater for 20% of the gaming community, then they would not have made a game that is designed to appeal to almost every type of gamer out there. They would not have put millions advertising it a year before release, and they certainly would not have released it on a console. [quote]Oh the crucidible? i used to play cod competitively, and my BF4 KD is a 2.2 and destiny floats around a 1.5 im extremly talented at multiplayer and by no means am i mad other players have just as good or better armor my point is the way your suppose to obtain these items are suppose to come in a different way.. thats half the fun of these games and makes getting the drops that much better and enjoyable instead of .. oh another one.. oh another one..[/quote] Yeah, i'll just ignore that part. [quote]Everyone is crying about legendary items turning into blues and exotic bounties being to hard? [/quote] Good to know that a minorty is now called "Everyone" [quote]HAVE ANY OF YOU GUYS EVER PLAYED AN MMO BEFORE?[/quote] Yes thanks, way too much time needed for them though, which is why I bought Destiny... Remember though, this is not a MMO so all over the below is not a valid point, but i'll entertain it anyway. [quote]Legendries in other games take hours to obtain and sometimes there not even guaranteed!! let alone you obtain one and the roll on it is absolutely terrible. This game is AN MMORPG this is not COD. THIS IS NOT COD. You aren't suppose to to obtain max level in a matter of days!! your not suppose to be able to do the raid in a matter of days!! Diablo, you got one or two legendries every 1-2 times you ran through the entire game. No, all of you call of duty kids decieded to come over and complain about everything. and everything got ruined.[/quote] Yes, quite right. This game is not CoD. However, it's also not a MMO. I feel like i'm repeating myself quite a lot here. Please, just read and allow the information to actually sink in. This game is NOT a MMO, it is NOT Diablo, it is NOT WoW, it is NOT CoD. It IS a Hybrid, it IS a mixture that takes elements from 2 very popular genres and attempts to meld them into a game that can be enjoyed by both sets of gamers. [quote]EVERYONE IN THE GAME IS NOW 25-28, and it sucks. this should not of taken days to obtain. Than you guys start complaining about not getting legendary gear like it was suppose to be handed to you. And it was, you guys got Queens Wrath and all you noobs who didn't grind and didn't know how to play an mmo got carried by bungie. Now lets all cry about crucidible. Oh the shotty is OP oh the auto is OP the Fusion is OP, BUNGIE DESIGNED THIS GAME THAT SPECIAL WEAPONS ARE TO BE ONE HIT KILLS THATS WHY THERE SPECIAL WEAPONS. THIS IS NOT CALL OF DUTY YOUR PLAYING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ENGINE. Go back to battlefield and call of duty everyone is complaining about this game not having enough creativity when they made a game that no one has done yet! Why are you guys still crying?[/quote] Well they should have made it harder to reach those levels so fast if that was the case. So obviously they wanted people to reach those levels, how else would they get people playing VoG. Why do you assume that the only people complaining about the game are CoD or Battlefield players. Your assumption on this matter is not only rude, it's disrespectful and pig ignorant. [quote]Oh and the exotic bounties? oh so hard... 500 void points on the thorn and your crying? what did you want this just given to you? THIS IS AN EXOTIC WEAPON. THIS IS NOT A RARE. All of you guys are ruining the game for everyone whos waited years for A Shooter Mmo RPG to reach a non pc platform. [/quote] Exotic bounties should be difficult to obtain, but difficult should not mean tedious or monotonous. For example, the bounty I currently have. I had to complete the Weekly Heroic. Then I had to complete 25 strikes. Then I had to trade a strange coin to Xur, and now I have to kill 10,000 Gaurdians in the Crucible. So none of this bounty is difficult, it's just tedious and boring. If I was to average 15 kills per game on the crucible, it would take me 666 games to acheive my goal. Again, i'll repeat. It's not difficult, it's just time consuming and boring. But wait, put the pitchfork away. I don't care as it's an exotic. I actually expect them to be that way. [quote]Oh your not getting any drops from the raid? WHAT DID YOU EXPECT. This takes time! it doesn't happen first try you have to grind it out! this game is not designed to have all the best gear obtained to easily. All of you noobs make me so angry and your ruining this game for what it intended to be.do yourself and everyone a favor and return it instead of sitting here complaining about everything until they patch every single thing.[/quote] I've not done the raid yet, i've not really had the time, but whatever. I don't get upset when I don't get any drops in normal game play or the strike playlist, I just play the game with a few friends and have a laugh while I do it. [quote]I dare you to hop on WoW and do a 15 hour raid to watch yourself not get anything. Or play Diablo three times through to get a legendry drop the rolls into garbage. you guys would all quit so fast. go back to call of duty kids.[/quote] Yeah, but then this is not WoW or Diablo, it's not even a MMO. Yes, even after all that, it still boils down to you thinking that this is a MMO and should be treated as such, when the fact is. You yourself are blinkered in your views on this matter, you have point blank refused to even entertain the notion that this is anything but a MMO. So please, take a step back and look at it from a neutral perspective and then understand that this is a game made for everyone and not just a specific group. Thanks.