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So Deej / Bungie is denying / downgrading the story on Reddit of content purposely being left out of the game. My opinion.

Think 404Architect is telling the truth

1799

Think Deej / Bungie is telling the truth

316

Indecisive but favorable towards Deej / Bungie

292

Indecisive but favorable towards 404Architect

869

TLDR / Don't care / No clue what this is about

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EDIT: Sorry but I am done with the topic. Together with similar topics I think we made a point and Bungie/Activision noticed. In the end it does not really matter if 404A is true or troll and we will probably never find out anyway. Some are having a blast with Destiny and others (probably) see it's huge potential but currently are dissapointed by its repetitive gameplay and overall lack of content. As far as I am concerned both are right. Since I am not the type of guy to delete a topic the original post remains in the spoiler below. [spoiler]Since I get many positive reactions in such a short time in my reply to Deej in in[url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70924634/0/0/1] this post by Mohamed[/url] , it just might deserve a topic on its own. [b]In short the topic concerns a number of claims, among others content purposely left out of the game, addressed by someone known as [i]404Architect[/i] who is/pretends to be a current/former Bungie/Activision employee (or at least very close to them). [/b] [quote] [b]DeeJ [/b] You are being trolled, Internet. Don't let it happen. Bungie employees are easy to spot in the wild[/quote] [u]Sorry Deej nothing personal but educated C2B (Consumer to Business) for once[/u] I've investigated the [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the/]entire story[/url] myself and being a (former) fraud auditor I am pretty well trained at both (data) analysis and 'reading through the lines.' Although you may choose not to believe my former occupancy and disregard my opinion: - There is no proof of who he/she is, let alone a former or current employee of Bungie. [b]Also there is no proof just how easy Bungie employees are to spot in the wild[/b]. [i](if you ever been to Africa, I could tell you that even a 2+ ton Rhino can easily be overlooked between rocks or in the bush )[/i] - There is no proof of what he/she is telling us is true. There is however some [i]circumstantial evidence [/i] underlining his/her story including[url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=1] a 2013 article by IGN (and videos attached)[/url] and [url=http://www.bungie.net]link[/url] which makes very clear intended content Bungie [i]promised[/i]- sufficient enough to show and 'brag' about to one of the worlds most read game sites- did not make it to the final game. Especially the fully rendered storyline cut scenes in the [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwOUi4JDC4o]reveal ViDoc[/url] make more sense than the story included in the game itself. The reddit story itself all started from this [url=http://postimg.org/image/80it9ix8x/full/]mysterious and now deleted post [/url] of a self-claimed bungies tester which is supported by [url=https://i.imgur.com/Xv02vmU.jpg]this photo taken from the ViDoc[/url] which together lean towards [i]collaborated evidence[/i]. Last but not least IGN picked up on the [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/29/was-this-the-original-storyline-for-destiny]reddit story[/url] and their suspicion is clearly not in their best interest unless they believe to be onto something. - What does concern me however is not what exactly he/she is saying but [b][i]HOW[/i][/b] it is been said and [b][i]WHEN[/i][/b]. To start with the latter; there is very little time between the questions being asked and his/her response. Secondly and more important he/she seems to be frustrated him/herself, yet he/she speaks of Bungie (and Activision) and its employees with dignity and respect, seems to know what he/she is talking about AND, most important, is very consistent in all of this. This even applies for negative answers, like I don't know / can't answer, which are most often followed by some sort of explanation AND then still are consistent with the rest his/her story. Counting against this is the lack of pressure like in a one/multiple to one interview but still all of this together (timing and consistency) is extremely difficult to do in a made up story. Conclusive: Together with my (our) own observations that the final product -although being developed for years AND put in the market otherwise- is lacking in both story and content, my opinion is that the statements of [url=http://www.reddit.com/user/404Architect]404Architect[/url] [b][i][u]should be considered legit[/b][/i][/u]. Future content and DLC hold against claims made by Bungie itself in the [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=1] a 2013 IGN preview[/url] and claims [url=http://www.reddit.com/user/404Architect]404Architect[/url] made by will provide the required evidence to confirm or deny this statement. In addition: [quote] [b]user made anonymous by me[/b] Wat did bungie advertise that didn't come in the game? [/quote] [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=1]THIS[/url] and [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/17/bungies-destiny-a-land-of-hope-and-dreams?page=2]THIS[/url] Especially THEIR Pilars #1, 2, 4 & 7. Even a blind sees how far it is off EDIT: Thanks for all your response, positive and negative.[/spoiler]
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  • Edited by scuzzgolem: 9/30/2014 3:29:23 PM
    Jesus, CAN WE PLEASE STOP THESE -blam!-ING TIN FOIL HAT POSTS? [quote]I've investigated the entire story myself and being a (former) fraud auditor I am pretty well trained at both (data) analysis and 'reading through the lines.' [/quote] Sure you are buddy. And if this were a post on bigfoot, you would say you were taught to track down water buffalo by the Crocodile Hunter before he died. [quote]here is no proof of who he/she is, let alone a former or current employee of Bungie. Also there is no proof just how easy Bungie employees are to spot in the wild. (if you ever been to Africa, I could tell you that even a 2+ ton Rhino can easily be overlooked between rocks or in the bush ) - There is no proof of what he/she is telling us is true. [/quote] Translation: There is no proof of anything. Please continue to amaze us with your powers of deduction, Holmes. Also, I am sure you learned that shit about the rhino from the Crocodile Hunter. [quote]There is however some circumstantial evidence[/quote] Wow. [i]Some[/i] circumstantial evidence. Slam dunk case. This one is in the bag folks. [quote]There is however some circumstantial evidence underlining his/her story including a 2013 article by IGN (and videos attached) and link which makes very clear intended content Bungie promised- sufficient enough to show and 'brag' about to one of the worlds most read game sites- did not make it to the final game. Especially the fully rendered storyline cut scenes in the reveal ViDoc make more sense than the story included in the game itself. The reddit story itself all started from this mysterious and now deleted post of a self-claimed bungies tester which is supported by this photo taken from the ViDoc which together lean towards collaborated evidence. Last but not least IGN picked up on the reddit story and their suspicion is clearly not in their best interest unless they believe to be onto something. [/quote] Were you interviewed for this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7pzg9xpAOE Because your crazy speculation based on nothing sounds like these crazy ass mother-blam!-ers. [quote]What does concern me however is not what exactly he/she is saying but HOW it is been said and WHEN. To start with the latter; there is very little time between the questions being asked and his/her response. Secondly and more important he/she seems to be frustrated him/herself, yet he/she speaks of Bungie (and Activision) and its employees with dignity and respect, seems to know what he/she is talking about AND, most important, is very consistent in all of this. This even applies for negative answers, like I don't know / can't answer, which are most often followed by some sort of explanation AND then still are consistent with the rest his/her story. Counting against this is the lack of pressure like in a one/multiple to one interview but still all of this together (timing and consistency) is extremely difficult to do in a made up story. [/quote] Really? Everything the Reddit user talked about had been speculated and talked about endlessly on these forums. I could have told that story verbatim if I had just channeled the whiniest and most sniveling posts on these forums, which I could easily do at this point. I should also note that at no point does the user attribute any specific motivations or intent to anyone in particular. If this person actually knew what the -blam!- they were talking about, it should be quite easy to do so. Basically, you are arguing that some anonymous Reddit use is probably a good person and that we should trust them, which is a thought shared by no one in the history of the world ever. [quote]Conclusive: Together with my (our) own observations that the final product -although being developed for years AND put in the market otherwise- is lacking in both story and content, my opinion is that the statements of 404Architect should be considered legit.[/quote] In conclusion, based on my personal beliefs and my complete lack of actual evidence for anything I have claimed, I choose to believe that something nefarious has taken place because I want to believe something nefarious took place.

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