Whiners seem to be a major issue for Destiny right now. I''m not saying Destiny doesn't have problems but seriously people quit your whining and just enjoy the game, all multiplayer games have server errors at some point and bitching about it because it really isn't helpful. Worse than the average whiners are those who throw outright disrespect at Bungie. To you i say if you think you can do a better job than Bungie then prove it or shut up. Developing games is no easy task and those who have the qualifications and skill to develop them deserve our respect. Whining about a game and its developer is both ungrateful and immature especially when you consider the vast amounts of money spent before a game is even released. Never forget that at the end of the day all the work and money put into games by their developers is done for us the gamers, so instead of whining and naysaying show some respect and gratitude for their efforts.