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Edited by 101WaysToBeBronze:
9/25/2014 11:01:27 PM
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So You're Listening While Disabling Comments?
While it is commendable that Bungie has finally taken the time to address the concerns of the community after letting feedback fly back and forth for the past two weeks, I have found the way they have touched on concerns very vague and more troubling how they have completely omitted some them. You say that you are listening to our feedback earnestly Bungie? But then go and block the comments for your two new posts about the future of the game. That is equivalent of putting on headphones as someone is speaking to you. Not only is this total restriction of feedback the exact opposite action to your words it has also allowed you to avoid two very universal and highly expressed pieces of feedback from players and reviewers alike which are the story and mission structure.
How is it that despite the near unanimous bashing/condemnation of Destiny's story everywhere have you completely failed to address it in your Dev notes? How is it despite players and critics nearly reaching a consensus on how repetitive and stale missions are have you missed it?. It wasn't until I read your other Dev note about the formula for strike missions that I lost all faith. Are you seriously trying to convince me that a bug was responsible for the difficulty of strikes? Despite it being the same quality and difficulty in the alpha and the beta?. Feedback for the strikes has been the same since the beta it is a bit late to blame it all on a simple bug.
It is understandable that for PR purposes everything must be presented in a positive no matter how twisted it is but you really have stretched goodwill far now. You had a perfect opportunity to demonstrate your commitment and you have made your attempt to do so as underdeveloped as your game.
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Edited by Vits: 10/1/2014 8:02:59 PMBungies communication with the community is quite terrible. Titanfall might've been way overhyped (I still loved the game) but Respawn has done one hell of a job with updates, fixing things that were imbalanced, and just listening...
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6 RepliesSpeak with your wallet. It will break ear drums when given enough time.
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1 ReplyWell I agree. But only partially on the disabling comments. What a lot of games do is double post. Once in the news section with disabled comments to keep it clean and then in the forums where they interact with the community on the content of their response. What they are missing is the later. Otherwise I completely agree.
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5 RepliesThe problem is the Ragers... I don't wanna read rage... I want to read constructive criticism... Thankfully they started blocking some...
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They might be kind of like how PewDiePie is on YouTube (not that I watch his stuff much anymore) He said that he's sick of the "wall of noise," that he gets from the comments, so he blocked them on his channel. So maybe Bungie is like that with the rage people. I hope they don't just up and say "No more feedback, you all suck!"
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i hate to agree with you.
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1 ReplyPosts from the Destiny Dev Team always have comments disabled. Comment on something else.
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11 RepliesEverything Bungie has put out there states that they are creating a game that "they" want to play. They as in, Bungie. Not you. Not the community. Therefor, one can deduce that they don't want your vision of where the future of Destiny will go. They have a clear vision. The Vocal Minority doesn't need to muddy it up. I know this tends to break away from the mold of AAA studios, but they are trying to meld aspects of many genres together. It's ambitious. It may fail. Just ask CCP. I know deep down that the forum whining is coming from those who care. But if you care, go back and reread the press releases, the social interactions during the development period. You'll see the truth, the vision, and the resolve. You'll also see the hope, that gamers will share their vision, but they know it may not be the case.
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3 RepliesConsidering how nearly impossible patching in the story would be, I'm not surprised that they are being silent on it. Hell, it took BioWare months to admit ME3 had a terrible ending before totally phoning in the fix. Why would Bungie be any different at this point?
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1 ReplyOnce again you rip the thoughts from our collective minds and masterfully post them. Although as you pointed out it doesn't seem Bungie cares about these posts. Even the major gaming sites and YouTube channels have commented on the sparse story, vending machine faux-npc's, and sad excuse for exploration. Sadly as long as Bungie and Activision continue to make money they don't seem to care.
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1 ReplyI agree with your post but on the other hand, I doubt Bungie reads the forums anyway so your complaints probably won't do much good...
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3 RepliesMaybe they didn't want 30,000 comments saying '-blam!- you Bungie', 'I want my money back Bungie', 'Make the game how I want it Bungie'...generally that sort of thing
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1 ReplyThey wanted you to make a thread about it rather than lose everyone's opinions in 12,000 replies. Duh
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Of course they're disabling comments. 90% of them would be people bitching about loot cave spawn timers or auto rifle nerfs or whatever the fotm Thing is, without realizing that they're good changes that improve quality of life for everyone and, after a week, after they have actually [i]played[/i] said announced patch and gotten used to it, all the rage will be gone. Or at least redirected to the next fotm.
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7 RepliesThis is why the feedback forum exists. Maybe they just wanted all responses directed to the forums intentionally.
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8 RepliesIf they allowed comments, there would be an explosion of trolls and whiners blowing it up. Totally justified. The fact they're addressing issues shows they are there.
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1 ReplyI'm honestly shocked by some of the replays that are trying to justify turning comments off (by blaming trolls and whiners). This is basically like saying "they do not allow people to say anything because they care". So I guess the best way to work with the community would be to disable forum, right?
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1 ReplyThey should know trolls or whiners would comment but by disabling they show they can't handle criticism.
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1 ReplyEdited by Orca: 9/25/2014 11:04:34 PMHaving read some of the shit storms comments on the other new post. I feel that the replies would get out of hand and just be a mess. Seeing as there is already a post a dressing each new update in the feedback section this should be more manageable allowing bungie to see everything more clearly.
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5 RepliesThey do have an entire board dedicated to feedback... That's hardly not listening. I also think the story would be a lot tougher to fix than balance tweaks, lol. Rest assured, they've gotten the message -- criticism on the story has been near universal. I'm willing to bet future expansions and Destiny 2 see some big changes... not sure about the upcoming expansion... that may have been in development too long before the feedback could really be absorbed.
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5 RepliesDude, everybody posting on one page would be chaos! No clear discussions would be made.
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6 RepliesThat is what the feedback forum is for. There are plenty of posts there responding to what they said. It's not like they are silencing the community voice.
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6 RepliesBut if they did allow comments, those with actual suggestions, feedback, and valid points will gut flushed out by all the f u bungie comments. Keeping it this way it'll be easier to sort out and learn from the community.
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12 RepliesIt's not their job to reply, so replying would be futile. Let them work, now you go play.
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14 RepliesExactly my thought when I saw the "Comments have been disabled" thing at the bottom. That is a really low move and basically a slap in everyones faces who are giving contructive feedback. If you guys can't handle the troll/hate posts that are just bashing, but not giving any solutions or constructive feedback, then stop patching the game alltogether and shutdown the servers, cause you will get those on anything everytime. Ignore the stupid feedback and listen to the people who are giving constructive and reasonable feedback.
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[b]Truth just got told ladies and gentlemen.[/b]
