Original title: crucible balancing discussion crusher Ok I need this question answered with a concrete response because I see a lot of misinformation going around. At least what I see as misinformation. The big question is, "How, exactly, is crucible balanced?" Here are some theories I've read: All guns in same class fire the same or "do same amount of damage". This seems wrong to me. Having tried out many different weapons in crucible, I feel there's no way a cydonia is firing the same way as a shingen. The recoil alone is enough to tell the difference. Maybe there's truth to this argument.... But it needs to be explained to me. Next theory- gun damage differences between weapons in same class are based on clip size... What? I guess I see the logic but I really hope this isn't true. So my hand cannon with lower impact and a 3 round chamber is gonna do more damage than my 8 round cannon that has almost maxed impact??! Please tell me this is false. Also heard that everyone's shields are same.... Just... Just no..... Here's what I believe. I hope I'm right but what's more important is the truth, so please let me have it. Anyway.. 1. [b]The Guns-[/b] everything about your gun is takin into consideration besides the attack stat! See those bars? They indicate how your gun will fire compared to other guns in its class. The perks? You get them. Notice how there's a bunch of +Attack stats perks in legendaries? Well those dont count. 2. [b]Armor-[/b] your defensive number on your armor pieces don't matter. What does matter? Look at your sub class skill tree. See how it says armor, recovery, and agility at the top? These matter!!! Even a warlock can have pretty high armor if you spec your subclass for it. I believe your strength, discipline, and intellect on your armor matter as well. Not to mention the perks on your armor like "reload pulse rifles faster". So that's what I think. Remember I'm trying to open up a discussion and I totally welcome the possibility that my thoughts are wrong. I really wanna know what is up with this though and I think it would help everyone understand the game a lot more if we knew how things were balanced. Bring your theories please. Bring your brain too, though.