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[quote]"Women are the nig[i]g[/i]ers of gender," the email said. "If you killed yourself, I wouldn’t even -blam!- the corpse."
I blinked at my phone, fighting simultaneous urges to hurl my phone across the room in anger and cry. Later that day, someone texted me my address — telling me they’d "See me when I least expected it."
I haven’t been out to my car at night by myself since January 2nd.
My name is Brianna Wu. I lead a development studio that makes games. Sometimes, I write about issues in the games industry that relate to the equality of women. My reward is that I regularly have men threatening to r[i]a[/i]pe and commit acts of violence against me.
If you are a woman working in the games industry, especially in a public way, you’re going to experience harassment. I imagine telling my 12-year-old self that fulfilling my dream of making games would lead to constant threats. Would she still do it? Would any woman?
[b]The problem with sharing these stories in broad terms is that people think men and women receive the same harassment online. They do not. I’m not writing this piece to evoke your sympathy. I’m writing to share with you what prominent, successful women in the industry experience, in their own words.[/b]
[b]The Myth[/b]: Everyone in the games industry experiences harassment. Women are just too sensitive about it.
[b]The Reality[/b]: If you are a woman in the industry with a critical opinion, you will get a disproportional amount of criticism, hostility, and scrutiny compared to men.
"Anita Sarkeesian once reblogged a Tumblr post of mine and it ended up on Reddit. I got so much hate mail from dudes that I left the internet for three days," Nina said.
"They filled my Tumblr mailbox with the usual anon posts like, ‘Die, you f[i]u[/i]cking c[i]u[/i]nt!’ And, ‘You'll know when I r[i]a[/i]pe your mouth hole, bitch!’ When I turned off anonymous messages, they made new Tumblr accounts and continued to spam me. Later, they discovered the link to my personal webpage and sent hate mail through there. I still get an occasional random hate message through my website."
[b]Conclusion: I’ve personally never heard of a man in the games industry getting r[ia[/i]pe threats for having an opinion.[/b]
[b]A male friend of mine that develops AAA games told me, "When a woman criticizes me, it goes to a different part of my brain than when a man on my team does. I get defensive really quickly. I’m trying to get better about it." I don’t think his is a unique experience.[/b]
[b]We live in a society that’s sexist in ways it doesn’t understand. One of the consequences is that men are extremely sensitive to being criticized by women. I think it threatens them in a very primal way, and male privilege makes them feel free to lash out.
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[b]This is why women are socialized to carefully dance around these issues, disagreeing with men in an extremely gentle manner. Not because women are nicer creatures than men, but because our very survival can depend on it.[/b]
[b]The Myth[/b]: Women in the games industry get special treatment for being women, and your life can be made easier by your looks
[b]The Reality[/b]: Many men believe women have no worth in the games industry beyond appearance. This means that an incredible amount of conversation focuses on sexual attractiveness or appearance in general.
Nicole’s Experience: Nicole Tanner is a former editor of IGN, and was one of the founders of "Girlfight." I talked to her recently about the harassment she received while running this groundbreaking all-woman podcast.
"If you want examples of self-esteem destroying comments, search for the PAX Girlfight panel on YouTube. At IGN, I’d simply ignore the comments because they were so bad. And that's sad, because I'm sure I missed out on some thoughtful discussion, but wading through the insults to get to the few good comments wasn't worth it."
A look at the YouTube comments for her 2010 PAX East panel is stomach-churning. A shocking number of them personally attack the women of Girlfight.
"I thought they would put some -blam!-ing hot girls up there to -blam!-ing look at. AM I RIGHT?"
"Only 1 out of 5 is hot, and that is Jessica. The rest need to be in the kitchen."
"Wow, now I realize why Jess is the only chick working in IGN that gets featured in videos."
[b]Conclusion: The video game industry is particularly egregious at only representing women as sex objects. As such, many gamers are trained to only see women in that context.
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When I’ve been attacked over my looks, it’s hurt me very deeply. I am an engineer and a head of development for my company. My value to the industry is leading my team to make games, but that very basic reality is no defense against constant commentary on how I look. This constant stream of comments and insults aimed at your body, face, and presentation is inescapable, and rarely happens to men on the same level.
[b]The Myth[/b]: Women should just laugh off online harassment and not take it personally.
[b]The Reality[/b]: This kind of harassment leaves long-lasting damage. It affects our friendships, and can cause us to be distant from others.
Often, I’ll see people lashing out at women they perceive as too bitchy or too confrontational. They don’t understand that we are the sum of our experiences. The toxic environment causes us to change.
If people attack you online, you’re going to get defensive quickly. If people sexually harass you, you’re going to grow more inward, and more protective. It’s a very human reaction, and there is no way to face this daily reality without it changing who you are.
[b]PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND[/b]
Women in the industry are told by men what is valid for us to feel. The conversations tend not to recognize the reality of the situation, and the very real threats that can occur at gaming events or in our day-to-day lives. We’re told it doesn’t matter, to grow a thicker skin, and that men go through the same thing.
I have yet to talk to a man who has had to call a police officer due to a stalker, only to be told nothing can be done until they are physically assaulted. It’s hard to explain what it’s like to be at a gaming event, cornered by someone who claims to be a fan, and to be physically kept from leaving by someone holding you in place or putting their body between you and the exit.
The comments on stories about lived experiences of women tend to ignore these stories, or claim the issue is as simple as nasty messages on videos or news stories. The words and experiences of women are shouted down, or ignored.
[b]THINGS AREN'T GETTING BETTER FOR WOMEN ON THE INTERNET; THEY’RE DETERIORATING[/b]
It’s telling that men in the gaming industry, or simply commentators, refuse to listen to the reality of these situations and try to help. They’d rather talk over women and convince themselves of a fictional reality that’s more comforting.[/quote]
If you actually scaled that Great Wall of Text, then I salute you.
Tell me your thoughts on this issue. I had to edit out much of the article for it to fit. The whole thing can be found in the link above.
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I just read the N word and made this reply. TL:DR?
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I was taking you seriously until you used the word male privilege. It brings feminism mind and we all know how much everyone loves feminism.
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Edited by Kashmir: 8/26/2014 8:40:34 PMAuthor's premise is riddled with anecdotal evidence and taking YouTube comments seriously.
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*squirts Raveness with water bottle* BAD RAVEN! We don't say the N Word! *continues squirting with water* BAD BAD BAD!
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Wait aren't you a feminist. If so then why. Don't you want gender equality? Shouldn't you call yourself an equalist or something.
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Women still aren't considered equals socially and legally which is just wrong and explains this phenomenon
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-shrugs- it's not going away just because you write about it.
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[quote]The Myth: Everyone in the games industry experiences harassment. Women are just too sensitive about it.[/quote] Have you even read a game developers official forums before? Were you here for the shit fest that was the Halo forum during Reach's prime? Developers get called out regardless of gender. Gamers get mad and lash out at everyone and anyone. [quote]The Myth: Women in the games industry get special treatment for being women, and your life can be made easier by your looks[/quote] Here's a pro tip for life. ALL beautiful people get it easier. Humans are drawn to beautiful people regardless of gender because we are all base, superficial people wheather we like to admit it or not. As for women getting special treatment I can testify with my experience in CS engineering classes. Females make up about 5-7% of all classes, so yea, guys are going to try extra hard to swoon the ladies because high demand and low supply. That means guys will be more inclined to cover for girls in projects and share HW/notes. [quote]The Myth: Women should just laugh off online harassment and not take it personally. [/quote] People who take youtube and tumblr comments seriously are in serious need of mental health care. This is the internet, everyone is a troll, and everyone is a target. 6/10 got me to reply
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Women getting mistreated in gaming and the industry. Ok, it's annoying considering playing with my girlfriend online is something that -blam!-ing annoys me. We are 99% in party chat on Xbox, the other 1% is so damn atrocious. Guys hitting on her, butting into our conversations, etc... We tend to ignore it (mute), but really, almost every game, they'll favor her as in help her over the rest of the people, or just try and harass her. There really is nothing except to ignore it and hope it goes away, maybe something, but really, at the moment we can't do much. DEM WRITING SKILZ
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Assholes are every were and they don't care what gender you are.
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Edited by Axlyon: 8/26/2014 9:31:45 PMFirst off, let me say that I am truly sorry that this is happening. And I do agree that a lot of woman face this struggle and there are a lot of myths out there. But sadly, I don't see a solution to this problem. It's frustrating. But I hope all other woman in this industry receive the respect they deserve. Oh, and as a female, I think it's [u]awesome[/u] that girls work in the gaming industry. Keep doin what your doin ;D
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That was actually just pretty funny,she's just super sensitive.
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Did anyone actually read that whole wall of text?
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This is the second time I've seen you post something like this. Just don't. If I recall correctly, that was the aftermath of a raid. If you want to see how women are currently getting promoted in the games industry, check out /v/.
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Brianna Wu needs to get herself a gun.
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[spoiler]not all men[/spoiler] [spoiler]lmao[/spoiler] But seriously, until you feminists come up with some sort of soultion (besides bashing every male that disagrees with your opinion) to these alleged "problems", I don't see a reason for why I should give a flying f[u]u[/u]ck. I don't care that about the gender of the people making games, but I don't see a way that I can stop other people from having different opinions.
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DIDNT READ LOL.
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Women should just go back in the kitchen and this wouldn't happen
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You should really put a quote thing around the stuff from the article, it's kind of confusing...
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I just did.
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Shits given to Briana Wu: -0 Because tye number is below zero, but waaay to small for me to give a shit about.
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Have sex to get ahead. [spoiler]feminism can suck this dick[/spoiler]
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One only need look through the comments on this very thread to confirm what she is saying. If she weren't correct, then the average response would be meh, who cares. Instead, we see just what she describes.
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If they have the pre-requisites and and a very good candidate I would hire women. I don't care what sex you are. You got the skills and knowledge to benefit my company you hired
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Edited by KingKrown: 8/28/2014 4:03:18 AMPeople are so f*cking overly sensitive, entitled and easily offended ... and half the time pull some race or gender card for their lack of success,ambition, will or their toilet paper skin & esteem. some just make conflict where there is none.. THERE AREN'T enough [race here],Women! or [sexual preference here] type characters in this, This is Anti-X. Instead o creating their own thing, People in gaming as of late want to shove their ideals down people's throat SO BAD,YOU HAVE TO CONFORM to their personal preference. [quote]The Reality: This kind of harassment leaves long-lasting damage. It affects our friendships, and can cause us to be distant from others.[/quote] ...an example of being "Overly sensitive" You know how many times I've been called a N*gger, online and in real life? I don't go around like. I...I just can't trust my Caucasian,Latin,Asian friends anymore...not...not after what that random dude said to me..THEY ARE JUST LIKE HIM! *runs away dramatically* This chick has so much assumption & generalization in this "article" is ridiculous....you just group EVERYONE with the bad apples? ...seriously? using only facetious INTERNET comments as a basis for an argument ....seriously? I will ALWAYS be given sh*t,weather for being Black, or more importantly just being a person with an opinion. lol people are a**holes,get over it....They need to grow a metaphorical pair. "This game/idea is Sh*t" ...OH IT'S BECAUSE I"M A [Woman]/[Race here]/[Sexual preference here]! There are some legit trolls out there,don't get more wrong. But they act like they are the 1st person to ever get "harassed" or insulted. The fact she let her jimmies get rustled over that means they have done their job. EVERY/ANY dev could pull that I'm being harassed crap. You know how easy it'd be for Bungie/Activison ANY Team could say they are being harassed by X group because they are X? They are given sh*t ALL the time, like ANYONE one else in gaming,SOMEONE is ALWAYS unhappy,someone is always going to troll. They could EASILY make up some article about how they are being treated this way because of something to do with race,gender,sexual preference. Instead of [u]playing the victim[/u] all the time and B*tching about it, they go on about their business. You know how easily an unsuccessful dev team could go on and say people don't support their game because we are mostly X and Support X or we don't like X. Why would someone even want to waste time arguing with some close minded individual? those people more then often say your argument is Moot & can't POSSIBLY understand their level of anguish and harassment blah blah.. If I wanted to see a change in gaming,which I do,but...instead of b*tching ,blaming,pointing fingers and playing the victim card, Maybe I should actually get involved and try to make a difference by actual DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE. ..something besides whining.