Yeah im hoping we get more story but if not ive come to peace with playing it for what it is

Raids, I think, will be a major part of the game. It will most likely be just as big, if not bigger, than the story. The expansions will also continue the story. They have plenty of room to keep the story going for quite some time.

I agree. Some additional cutscenes prior to your resurrection via the Ghost or upon your arrival at the Tower to explain more of the background would be extremely beneficial. If you as a developer want me invested in what's going on in a game, I need a compelling story to achieve that. If I read a book (or book series) and become very attached to its characters, themes, lore, etc. it's because the author has done an excellent job of stimulating my imagination and making the story feel like it's something I can connect to and like it's worth spending my time on. The principle remains the same in gaming. Bungie, I'm your reader and you are the author. It's up to your storytelling abilities to entice me to invest my time.

You're killing them because they're shooting at you

I feel like the storytelling may be "streamlined" because of the MMO-esque always-online nature of the game, to get players into the action even faster. Mass Effect had its own in-game reference material to enrich and add detail to the world and I think the [url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Grimoire/]Grimoire[/url] is going to fill a similar roll. Though, maybe, it'll be used to fill in blanks rather than just adding detail, which would be kind of unfortunate. I can't say what the game will feel like to the average person. I'm too interested in everything to not be excited about going through the Grimoire as it fills up or trying to glean information out of bits and peices of dialogue random NPC's may say. I have a feeling I'll understand what's going on but that may not be the case for everyone who isn't willing to put in the work.

It was only a beta... Find another place to complain, try talking to your wall about it

[quote]While I don't agree with the whole article, it raises good points. [/quote] Not really , Game Informer are a bunch of pompous asshats who are full of shit and about as bad as IGN in their hypocrisy . the beta was meant to tease a tiny bit to us and little more , and bungie has told us over and over again that they want to keep as much of the game a secret from us until we play destiny next month .

While imo the darkness sounds like a giant cliché and is incredibly vague, this article was atrocious. The demanding to be spoonfed all information is sickening and really shows that the author doesn't care and isn't open to experience. Also I cringed at the "these names are too hard what's a guilty spark is that a name?" like why was that even a section?

I think I'll wait for the full release to decide. I cannot stand game sites that criticize a game over a beta when they should know more than most that it's not a final or full version. I think it's horrible reporting. I think you are good for recognizing that it's a beta at least and the possibility of story being omitted.

Did you ever play Halo? It also has no backstory whatsoever in-game (though it is implied that the Chief knows what is going on). All you get is that some collection of aliens are at war with mankind and you just jumped out of warp space with them following. In Destiny you wake up after being dead for awhile. I'd presume you died during the fall - perhaps you were killed by fallen. The Ghost implies you will probably be surprised by the overall state of things, but I'd assume your character is already familiar with all 4 alien races at a minimum. I also wouldn't expect your guardian to have any more personality or dialogue than the Chief. Destiny's method of story telling so far implies that you are one of hundreds/thousands/millions of guardians who will assist in pushing back the darkness - your own guardian is never going to be special or elevated above other guardians for plot purposes. It's not at all a character driven narrative (I agree all the Tower NPCs may as well be vending machines for all the personality and dialogue they have). It also has much more of a fairy tale vibe to it's story telling, compared to Halo's 80's B-grade action flick style.

I did feel like the story was lacking but that may be fixed from the beta

The entire world is at risk. The fate of humanity hangs in the balance and you want to be brought up to speed on what has probably been at least a century!? We're lucky we got what we did

There even is a story to criticize? We supposedly played 1/4th to 1/5th of the story missions and there was none. But a nonexistent or redundant story is just another MMO trope they picked up and was never the reason I'm gonna pick up the game.

you just got resurrected in the middle of a massive war and you want someone to sit down with you an explain to you everything that has happened while you've been dead? Plenty of time for that once the universe is saved.

This isn't skyrim, I know that's what we all expected but that's what we all aren't getting. It's halo borderlands cod dude but with less charm and character

I think that article is written by someone who wanted to find fault with Destiny and so ended up writing whatever to fill a page. The game we played was a beta, it simply can't be used to judge the entire game. Anyone foolish enough to make such a illogical leap doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

I feel like a total nerd for knowing about the array, Rasputin, and what a warmind was before I played the beta. Charlemagne is also a warmind. You get to raid his vault in the game. The story hasn't been expanded on, and that was done on purpose. This isn't mass effect, skyrim, or borderlands. It's a new game with a new story that we have not played yet. If you can't follow the story, go back to COD.

Generally, I think the author of that post is not a veteran FPS gamer. Yeah, sure - Destiny dumped a lot of information on you at once. Yeah, sure, I heard the exposition as I was lining up my headshots and throwing grenades. However, there was never a point in the beginning of Destiny where I felt like I was 'in trouble'. If you're used to playing FPS, then you're going through the motions in the first parts of the game. Learning your button layout and weapon capabilities. But you're not struggling to make it through the level. And while you're mostly on autopilot (because, let's face it, if you're over about 20, you've probably gone through 30-40 new FPS games and learned them), one ear is listening to the Ghost tell the beginning story. On the other hand, if you struggle to find a headshot, you're not sure what the word 'cover' means, or you aren't sure when to throw your grenade and when to save it - you may have problems like the author of that post. The answers were, for the most part, there in the Beta, but if you're too distracted because you're still working out the mechanics of FPS gaming - there's nothing that's going to help you. I can't think of an FPS game, off the top of my head, that sits you down for a half-hour study session to talk about the state of the world. Shooters are action games, and they put you in that action straight off. So my conclusion isn't that the beginning of Destiny is bad. It's that the author of that post is not an FPS gamer, and they need to learn the gameplay mechanics a little more before they start writing reviews on it. Having said that -- There's a lot of unexplained points in Destiny's lore - but nothing on the level I'd call a 'plot hole' just yet. For instance - if the Moon was terraformed by the Traveler before the Hive invaded, why do the dead humans have space suits on? Why does it appear that the Traveler didn't warn humanity about the Darkness? Why, if the Traveler had battled this 'ancient enemy' before, didn't it create the Guardians when it arrived on Earth and militarized the entire planet to withstand the Darkness' assault? These are the questions that the author should be asking if he's reflecting on Destiny's plot at all... not, 'Well, the Ghost was talking while there was enemies and stuff, so I didn't understand what was going on." That's barely a critique.