TL:DR version Play Destiny as if there was no PvP.

Having loved Halo ' s play style and having played Destiny's pvp quite a bit in the beta I feel I have to respond to this thread. Firstly I 100% agree with you about twitch shooters. Have never really been a fan of them, and they have never been nearly as fun to me as Halo. That being said I don't feel like Destiny is a twitch shooter. And to add to this, headshots mean the difference between life and death in this game, and lastly the active radar gives you the situational awareness that helps Combat shorter kill times. One of the defining things to me in Halo was the enemy being able to get the first shot into me, but still being able to turn around and if accurate enough still end up winning the fight. And honestly that happened a lot to me in Destiny. Overall I can see where you are coming from with saying it had Cod mechanics, but I definitely feel the Halo influence as well, all in all I feel like it is a unique experience that once you have gotten use to it will definitely favor the more skilled player!

Destiny is a arena shooter. It relies more on just luck. It moves at a different pace than halo, and KZ (everything moves faster then KZ tho.. lol) But that doesn't mean it's based on who shot first. To say that is to say games like Tribes, Quake, Unreal, relied on luck. I like destiny cause it mixes the ADS of modern games with the speed of those past games. It doesn't spoon feed you kills like COD or Titanfall does. With that bloody concept that everyone should get at least one kill. You have to earn your kills here, by wit or by skill.

[quote]First off, I'm really glad Bungie released an Alpha and Beta. I was fully expecting the multiplayer to "feel" like Halo on steroids with the RPG elements. Obviously, for those of you who have played the game know, that this is not the case. Now of course, this does not mean the multiplayer is bad. It's just not my personal cup of tea. The co-op seems to be nice and sturdy, and I will probably purchase it for that. Anyway, onto my point.[/quote] Expectations are a dangerous thing. Call of Duty has ridden the hype train straight into the ground every November [quote]Destiny seems to be more Call of Duty like than Halo in how the gunplay...well, plays out. It's more of a run and gun type shooter that requires little to no teamwork to play. Other games that I could equate this to could be Titanfall, Killzone, etc. It just lacks that uniting feel among the other players. But all more important, it lacks consequence.[/quote] The Gunplay itself is using Halo style map and controls with Call of Duty damage guns. The teamwork side of things is more of an optional supplement, and not a requirement to win. While it is quite possible to be more methodical in character placement, the diversity that requires teamwork is lower then Call of Duty possibilities (CoD has the other side of teamwork issues that Destiny doesn't, but it does give team capabilities with Claymores and such). Unity was a lot more apparent in Halo, but it does still exist in Destiny. [b]Lacking Consequence[/b] is best description of what is wrong with Crucible. Everything you do has very little effect, positive or negative. [quote]I always liked Halo, and games like it. There was some measure of consequence in how you shot. How you engaged. You couldn't just run and gun, because that always came down to luck. How you reacted to hit an enemy, instead of a friendly. You wouldn't just take a shot at a guy if he was rounding a corner, you'd need to eventuate the risk/reward of each situation and make a quick decision on what you think best. Smarter players were (almost) always the better players. The only consistent way to get lots of kills was to be smart and to outgun the opponent. Halo has always, even Halo 4, felt more difficult. It has always required more effort than "Call of Duty based shooters".[/quote] Yup. This paragraphs lacks much content to talk about. I agree [quote]Destiny doesn't play like Halo. Not even close. Its a different methodology entirely. Halo rewards skill. Halo is designed to be a great equalizer. You can give someone a shotgun in CQ and they still can get out BR'd by a skilled player. Destiny didn't play like that. Destiny played like Borderlands. Mash the buttons and hope crap happens. No real consequence given or received.[/quote] I still want to reiterate that Destiny plays like Halo, but the problem is the Call of Duty style guns and unavoidable supers. The reason Halo was so great was that, if you were smart and resourceful enough, you could get out of almost any battle alive. To stop amazing players from dominating, you introduce teamwork and tanks. Destiny lacks both teamwork and tanks past the basic traveling together and the glass cannon warlock.

Plus it didn't help that we were given only the hold the flags option in multiplayer, where we are forced to run around to keep the objectives...

Here is my opinion on the Destiny multiplayer. I always did pretty well in crucible matches getting in the top 3 of my team every game. It was the same situation for me in any halo game I have ever played. But in CoD I am notoriously known for being the worst player on the team, unless I get in a match where I got lucky.... How Destiny may feel to others like CoD I think it feels a lot more like Halo because I'm just better at those two titles than CoD.

multiplayer is crap

Comparing an mmorpg to an mmo is your first mistake. Its not supposed to be balanced, its an RPG People will always be better, skill, gear and even class. Its no the same toon and gun. Deep sauce city

Lol you got moved

I just want to remind everyone we only played Destiny for 4-8 days. People have played COD, BF, and Halo for years. So yeah, in the beginning everyone is going to just run and gun and not use any type of team work. Its just really irritating that people make these definitive assumptions about a game that we've only scratched the surface of.

Yep, Tackel. You clearly stated everything that is wrong with the PvP. Its garbage. If someone let me play this game, then told me it was from Bungie, I would have said they are full of it. No way Bungie PvP would ever be this terrible. Only good thing about the game is PvE and Co-Op. That simply does have enough of a catch for me to make it a "purchase" title. It will simply be a rental. Just wait till you got spammed nonstop in the Tower by people wanting to play the incredibly restricted Raid mode. It will be a nightmare. Anyone that played Phantasy Star Online will know exactly what I am talking about.

[quote] Destiny doesn't play like Halo. Not even close. Its a different methodology entirely. Halo rewards skill.[/quote] What world did you play halo in? Halo punished skilled players that got stuck on a team of BK's it also rewarded boosters cheaters and and everything else that is why tru(lybroken)skill dropped off the face of the earth. That's why level and Xp based PvP was introduced because that's balanced! Everyone has the opportunity to earn everything. This misguided post on here that a lvl 2 is as good as a lvl 20 also soooooo wrong. Level bonuses are turned off in standard crucible (on in Ib type events) but the level bases aren't so a 200 damage gun still wrecks a level 2 44 damage based gun. My 1500 defense still trumps your 150 defense. I'm hoping we see like level match making (match making within a couple levels of each other for balance) but still. Your cry that team work isn't required is false sure if you can camp a corner while the "best" player on your team racks up kills you can lone wolf win as long as he doesn't die a bunch. But the team that clears corners and hold points still wins via team work. That x3 score bonus means a lot. Especially when you play an IB type event where your weapon an armor bonuses are on.

Do you mean mash the one trigger you use to shoot?? You aim you shoot, hows that diff from halo? Stop crying cuz you got out skilled in the crucible bro