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12/12/2011 12:25:17 AM
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Ignore feature
Since it was pretty interesting to read, I'd like to fork the discussion being had in [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=68362580]this thread[/url] on the topic of "self-moderation" through the use of filtering tools, such as an ignore user feature.
I'm in support of a feature like this, and have been for quite a while, even before starting to moderate. See, I noticed that there were users who cluttered up the forum by constantly posting the same mindless drivel, but there wasn't anything I could do about it except do my best to ignore it, which is sometimes difficult when it's so prevalent.
The problem was occasionally worse when what these users were posting [i]I considered to be spam[/i], yet the moderators didn't agree or there were mitigating circumstances that didn't necessitate a blacklist (which [b]removes[/b] the content, albeit temporarily), or it took a long amount of time for a moderator to see the offending content and take action.
The point is, realistically, moderators are the only users capable of removing content from the forums, and that sucks for regular users with no equivalent tool. You have no way of removing things that anger or annoy you; you need to hope that someone else can and will do it for you, and do it within some kind of internally acceptable frame of time that only you yourself can and will determine. Now, speaking as a moderator, this kind of problem isn't so bad, since sometimes it's actual rule-breaking stuff that I can get rid of, [i]but only because I have the tools to do it[/i]. Again, you guys don't, and that's why it's an issue that I still acknowledge and am trying to find good solutions for. It just so happens that this is one of them.
So, three main points here:
- People post annoying crap
- You have no way to remove it
- You have to rely on a moderators decision which may or may not result in the content being removed (via blacklist), that decision may not be quick enough, and it may not be what you were hoping for
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dibbs089 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Yax Shut your hole, ED. Ken is right. If he bothers you so much just ignore him.[/quote]It seems he needs a feature in order to be able to do that. I've expressed my displeasure about this idea multiple times and I'm relatively sure that what I'm going to say has been said already (but I'm not going to read through 29 pages...sorry) but I'd like to address what I view as the strongest point for the system. That is, that users, through exercising the bare minimum of self moderation can just ignore others anyway (not read their posts, not respond to their posts, not interact with them in any way shape or form). Going by that argument, then, an ignore feature is just a continuation of things that naturally occur already. It's a fair argument but one that I cannot agree with. We should not be making it easier for people to ignore one another on this forum. Just because it can be done in some form now does not mean that it is right to implement a tool which will make it easier. Shockingly (and I mean really shockingly) Ken has eloquently provided a majority of the reasoning I believe as to why this feature shouldn't be implemented. I cannot stress enough how wrong (imo) it would be for users to have the ability to remove certain parts of the community they simply didn't want to see. I'm well aware the the webteam has tried to make this community taliored towards the individual; towards promoting self moderation and a community reflective of thier interests. I beg you not to promote that goal by implementing a feature like this. Just some thoughts that didn't really fit into the above paragraphs... -[u]Promoting this feature as a way to prevent "flame wars" is admitting that a majority of users would be incapable of engaging with others with different opinions rationally[/u]. -Furthermore by the amount of people which disagree with one another on these forums (and in this even in this thread) we have seen that people in fact [i]don't[/i] want to ignore those they disagree with but would rather have a public debate and try to embarrass one another (as silly as that is). [/quote]Nope, I don't require a feature....just thought I'd vent while I had the chance....OT:I wonder if it would be possible to do like a dry run of the feature and then say a month from starting the test come back and discuss the experience. No one ever got shot for experimenting. The Flood seems to be doing that themselves. You disagree with one thing and all of a sudden you're at gunpoint with someone's crap. No one wants to admit it but can you really deny that a lot of users might need someone to hold their hand?
