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monitor 16807

monitor 16807

12/9/2013 10:45:59 PM
I just read some of his books and I thought it all very quaint and smart and stuff. I've been wondering something though, if we've had all this knowledge for 2400-ish years how come we're still so retarded and still act as if nobody knew.
  • Uberdawg

    Uberdawg

    12/9/2013 10:56:55 PM Permalink
    Ah, but since you have read Plato, [url=http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/republic.9.viii.html]you've read the answer[/url]. See here, on Democratic Man: [quote]Yes, he said; that is the way with him. Yes, I said, he lives from day to day indulging the appetite of the hour; and sometimes he is lapped in drink and strains of the flute; then he becomes a water-drinker, and tries to get thin; then he takes a turn at gymnastics; sometimes idling and neglecting everything, then once more living the life of a philosopher; often he-is busy with politics, and starts to his feet and says and does whatever comes into his head; and, if he is emulous of any one who is a warrior, off he is in that direction, or of men of business, once more in that. His life has neither law nor order; and this distracted existence he terms joy and bliss and freedom; and so he goes on. Yes, he replied, he is all liberty and equality. Yes, I said; his life is motley and manifold and an epitome of the lives of many; --he answers to the State which we described as fair and spangled. And many a man and many a woman will take him for their pattern, and many a constitution and many an example of manners is contained in him. Just so. Let him then be set over against democracy; he may truly be called the democratic man.[/quote] And, continuing, [quote]By degrees the anarchy finds a way into private houses, and ends by getting among the animals and infecting them. How do you mean? I mean that the father grows accustomed to descend to the level of his sons and to fear them, and the son is on a level with his father, he having no respect or reverence for either of his parents; and this is his freedom, and the metic is equal with the citizen and the citizen with the metic, and the stranger is quite as good as either. Yes, he said, that is the way. And these are not the only evils, I said --there are several lesser ones: In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young and old are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old, and is ready to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend to the young and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; [b]they are loth to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the young.[/b][/quote] There were, of course, days when many people were not "so retarded." In fact there are people who are not so retarded. But, like the son who has no respect or reverence for his father, we are taught that these people were/are fools and knaves.
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