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Edited by Dragonfire: 4/19/2013 6:26:32 PM
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Random Appearing Ship Raids

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I think it'd be cool to have random cabal, fallen, vex, etc. ships that would appear while we're out in space. When a player finds one of these ships he/she is presented with either raiding the ship or avoiding it entirely. The ships would range in size from the "Forward Unto Dawn" up to the bigger "Pillar of Autumn"-esque ships (2 halo ships). Heck, if bungie could go bigger why not put in ships the size of the "USG Ishimura" (Dead Space) To get a sort of feel on how these raids would go down, look to the halo reach mission "long night of solice" OR that one map from Starwars Battlefront 2 (the one where each team has a home base ship). The player(s) would first need to board the ships without getting hit by flak from the enemy ship's turrets. After docking, the player(s) could roam around the ship trying to find weapons, items, etc.
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  • It would make me sexually active

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  • this would fail

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  • If bigger is possible I would like some covie sized super carriers flying through and tearing up the universe! haha....In moderation of course though.

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    • if they shot us down in space they can board us and give us the opportunity to kill them all and steal their ship to get back to base. if they shot us down in orbit to a planet then we can crash down to the planets surface, for survivor some with low health, some with mid health while some will need to be revived. the aliens who shot us down then comes down to search for any survivors and we'll be ready. if we shot them down in space then we can leave them to die or board their ship. if we shot them in orbit, they ship will crash, this will give us the opportunity to pursuit them or just leave them to crash. wreckage of crashes should be there for a while before they naturally decay. ie in mars the wreckage will just be buried in sand by sandstorms. or enemies cleaning up the wreckage or our side cleans it up. they should hold out special event for a certain amount of time. for example for 1 week the entire enemy tries to attack the last city with spaceship vehicles you name it, and you have the choice to do nothing/watch/ join the fight. while fighting in space the enemies will have a number of big ships for us to destroy from the outside or inside.

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    • What would be better, in my opinion, is that some raiders come and attack us, and they could range from a small ship similar to ours, to a large frigate. We could then either let them board and have shootouts on the ships, or have a battle in space and disable or destroy them. Depending on how large our ships are, it'd be cool if we had our own staff on our ships, and special forces, when defending the ship.

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      • I like this idea but of course it presents many important issues. First off is that we don't want to turn the game into a pirate themed play, if the enemies are numerous, common, or weak than players might farm them (if you'll excuse my terms). Players might abuse or turn the game into a ship combat game, and that would change the purpose or idea. If there are some enemies out there it would definitely be cool. If the larger ships were kind of like bosses, where you could call reinforcements to help you team them, it would be awesome! I started a thread about rewards so if you want to see my theories on gun customization or enemy death rewards check it out to understand where I'm coming from better. But ship combat would be very cool if done right. Its just a fragile concept and could be messed up if not handled with appropriate care.

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      • Oh I would love that! Great idea

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      • Anybody played Pirates of the Carribean Online? Well, boarding ships on that I thought was quite fun, how you could go on a random players boat and attack any ships out in the ocean, as well as boarding big war ships...but, saying that, Destiny will be in space... :P

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      • Edited by hopla: 4/25/2013 6:06:52 AM
        I'd just like to 'add' a couple of things to the discussion that maybe were meant but not voiced.[spoiler][quote][b]-[/b] Spider Pirates are likely to have differing ship schematics, as they could be an entirely fragmented civilization [i]or[/i] the last remnant, therefore sporting a uniform fleet. [b]-[/b] Cabal are also likely to have different schematics because they their society is possibly factional (also in a CQB boarding op they are likely to rip apart their own ship trying to defend it with those tank weapons they use as rifles). [b]-[/b] Vex may not even allow Guardians [i]inside[/i] a crippled/endangered vessel. Remember they're highly advanced robots so self-destruct isn't outside of a reasonable range of options for them. [b]-[/b] Hive might be too dangerous to board, the whole vessel could be 'alive'. And from what we've seen via the early GDC moodboard of the five aliens, their spacefleet seems to be comprised of [i]completely unique vessels[/i]. [b]-[/b] Glimmer, based on our factual sources, will be riding flaming space clones of Pegasus, so good luck boarding those. Oh yeah, and those onyx pyramids which may or may not be theirs, they're fashioned from nanobots that either disperse or murderously suffocate trespassers in a horrifying scene that could be straight out of a book I shouldn't ruin.[/quote][/spoiler]There are a couple balancing roles here to species to play combat as well as in geometry creation. Boarding any one of these vessels could result in a different scenario some of which might be timed or suicidal in the case of the Vex and Hive. Some species may not even need (new) geometry created because it is (near) impossible to enter the ship (and leave alive). Space battle AI would change depending on how willing the enemy is to lose all it's ships for a victory. I'm all for this idea but I hope their are varying degrees of danger in space zoning, I'd rather not be running into them all the time. Maybe there could be an additional variable of whether you've cleared a nearby region/installation of enemies? Either the zone is now safe or there are additional patrols, perhaps?

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      • This would set gaming at a whole other level.

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      • Edited by Jeobi: 4/24/2013 3:14:22 PM
        they made it sound as though space combat will be a mainstay; so I would assume that raiding ships would be possible. the question is whether or not we can raid other players' ships

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        • Halo reach has you boarding so i think it would be cool to implement. But i think the ships will probably float a little in space while they hammer you with enemy ships. Then you're most likely hitting the main ship hard and damaging it too a point. Although i feel it will be optimistic too see us flying on a enemy ship just to destroy it. i imagine the ships won't be as big as the pillar of autumn but could defenently see us on one of those ships that are just as big as that ship we went against on long night of solace. With like 3 major areas on the inside and thats it.

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        • I think that would be pretty realistic, in real life i think that would happen, considering that humans and thier enemies are space- faring...

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        • Great idea! But boarding a big vessel on your own is wel.. a little enthusiastic I think. You should be able to bring friends or NPC crew with you (that you can also customize of course).

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          • considering Bungie originally described the Fallen as spider pirates I think something along these lines is likely. Also think about the opposite: imagine a human ship that is raided by the Fallen near Saturn, the distress signal going out to Earth is going to take way too long to be effective, so it is up to you and the other guardians in the area to work together as "first responders" and protect the supplies and lives of the men and women on the ship.

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            • Sounds great. Although I imagine, as with Truth and Reconciliation, if we do manage to board a ship of considerable size, the layout will be the same or vary slightly compared to other ships of the same design. It's an interesting idea, no doubt, but I don't see the interior of the ships being as accessible as we'd want. If anything, to combat that lack of more interiors, they could add alternative ways to clear a room (hack air supply, vent a room, drop shields, etc etc etc) Add different ways to traverse the same space to keep it fresh.

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              • or even take command of the ship if that is possible!! oh that would be epic indeed.

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                • Or to find human ships that you could explore to find out more about humanity or even what happened Earth or even research ships that went to other galaxy's but only made it back now hundreds of years later, personally I think that would be pretty awesome lol

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                • I like it.

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                • Edited by Guru: 4/23/2013 1:04:46 AM
                  I think this would be a pretty cool idea. But how would it work. If the ships are this big then they must have an insane amount of defense. I don't think the ships that we can buy would be the size of any of the ship sizes you mentioned and it would take an immense amount of our size ships to take on one. It would be cool but maybe smaller transport ships or something. Those large ships would tear you apart not to mention probably having a fleet too.

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                • Could I see ranomly appearing spaceships to do battle with? Yes. Could I see myself entering every random ship that I came across? No. Here's why: Bungie would have to make a 'level' for each ship there is. Unless it's scripted, and somewhere you can go whenever you want, I don't think they'll do it. Having enemy spaceships do battle with you though is something I think will be in the game, and Bungie is a fan of things just randomly happening, so I think they will have that.

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                  • Im down for space pirates "Take all the booty!!!"

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                  • My trigger finger is already itching.

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                  • imagine clan/faction raids against huge enemy vessels from say a faction/clan capital ship huh? huh? also if you want a big ship think Infinity

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                  • Voted for Dislike. SCREW YOUR SOCIETAL EXPECTATIONS! #RebelSwagYOLO (I actually like the idea.)

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                  • Hell yea! I love the idea. Something like random ship appearances would be a VERY fun and dynamic. Imagine logging in assuming you're going to have a relatively quite day in Destiny and BAM! Vex Dreadnought. Having large ships that we can fight through for loot and experience would be one helluva good time.

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