[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TURTLE III [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] fatal 0Efx People concerned about burn in over black bars. Let me ask you this. Why are you not complaining about the static GUI components that are a part of your HUD? If you're concerned that you'll be playing long enough for the black bars to have burn in, what about the nice burn in you get from say, the outline of your Motion Tracker, for instance? [/quote] because plasma tvs have a process called "pixel shifting" that causes static areas to move around an unnoticeable amount to prevent burn in. However, you can't shift 10" bars on either side, therefore you will get burn in. [quote] have an additional comment about burn-in. Since many dismiss the potential burn in that WIDESCREEN MOVIES pose due to the same black bars[/quote] widescreen movies only last a couple of hours, and that isn't long enough to cause burn in. but when playing halo 3 for 6 hours or more (and who didn't play that long the day it came out?) burn in becomes a real factor.[/quote] You did read the article by Pioneer, yes? I'll quote a section in this article.

First, while image retention can occur in modern plasmas, the effect is temporary. After the 48-hour torture test, all three of the plasma TVs that were tested showed clearly visible images from the game menu, whereas none of the LCD or MD rearprojection- based sets showed any image retention. However, after regular video material (a DVD movie set to continuously loop) was played through the sets for 24 hours, the image completely disappeared from all three plasmas, leaving no trace. Unlike early generation plasmas, where those type of images would not go away and could actually "burn" onto the screen, modern plasma TVs enjoy a combination of more robust screen materials and subtle image-shifting technologies that have rendered this former issue moot.

I understand your point about image shifting, your argument really does not make sense to me. What exactly is your reasoning behind not being able to shift 10" black bars? I haven't really researched pixel-shifting and how it exactly works. I can only assume your argument is that the pixel-shifting done on 10" black bars is so minute, that any solid color shifting would basically be shifting to area that is already consumed by that same color, thereby no shift really happened. What was black, stayed black, ergo no change in color, thus producing potential for burn in. That concept has flaws. To be effective, it would have to base its claim that almost every individual pixel would have to essentially be different in color/tone/saturation. This is a huge flaw that would render the pixel-shifting useless for any picture that had any area, say arbitrarily, as big as 64 square pixels (8 x 8) of any solid color. This is a legitimately chance that this could quite feasibly happen. Based on the theory that colored pixels shifting slightly within this area would land them in an area of that exact same color, the pixel shift was pointless.. thereby causing potential for burn-in. Ultimately I think there is more to the pixel-shift that either you or I know, making it far more effective than we realize, even for black bar regions. Regardless of the pixel shift, per the article, any image retention that did happen, went away after those pixels were used more with other video mediums, i.e. TV/movies. If your TV is solely used for Halo3, then I guess you're screwed, unless you only play multiplayer, in which case who cares about burn in? You'd never see it cuz you're only playing halo3 multiplayer :). If you do use other mediums, then the burn-in should only be temporary. While agrivating, at least it's not a permanent issue that rendered your expensive TV useless. On a seperate argument, there has been long standing arguments about why plasma is not the technology we should embrace (potential for burn-in has always been a major factor). DLP never had burn-in issues. But plasma vs others is of course a debate for a different time.