no your putting words in my mouth i said graphics nothing else, like if the gameplay was atomic genious. not a pile of -blam!-e and my questions was would you still buy the game if the graphics wasnt to your expectations? perhaps better than these shots but you thought there still not good enough cus you want more? (think of it as being greedy) thats was my question but i mean i want it too be great aswell, i expect it to be the best game on the 360 but im not expecting it to be the best on all areas. but its annoying to see people saying it looks like halo 2...when it doesnt...i really dont know, when i look i see more detail, i see every single detail in master chiefs armour..(not so on the multiplayer pics though) but i think this will be great, but i just hate judging and crtitising so harshly when its still such early days. halo was a greatest game of all tiem like so many other titles like the zelda you mentioned..hell goldeneye, was the best james bond game ever and it didnt have impressive all out graphics but they were still freakin awsome and id still play on them today.., so was halo 2 and the 3 should follow suit. i hope im right in hopeing that the graphics will be like what they shown at e3, i hope i am right in thinking they still have a lot of graphical work to do and the final product will look awsome prettier then gears but not as detailed perhaps, because this game doesnt need to unless your going through ruined terrain ofcourse. but are you sure pushing bungie so hard will really make them work harder we dont know the stress behind making a game and trying to please high expecting customers?? but all im saying is ive looked at these screens on a HD moniter and screen and they look pretty much damn Good when you get up close and really see what bungie has put in. But im sure many peoiple wish for them to look better and im sure our mind will change soon enough and im sure that hardly any of maps and so are are finished just basics of the maps, hopefully, they hadnt animated moving grass shards yet, i am expecting more i hope they deliver and im sure they will and you guys saying it looks like halo 2 will withdraw comment...i hope. oh ,so you are saying even if bungie make a piece of junk,ppl will buy it just because it has a halo3 name on the cover.if this game turns out to be a disappointment,may be ppl will not buy it,they will just read the review and then rent it somewhere like gamefly just to know what is goin on in the story. what is wrong with you.of course we want halo3 to be as great as possible,of course we want to push bungie as hard as we can to give their best into making this game.besides,next-gen games have really really high expectations,do you know majority of the games on the nex-gen systems are not even qualified to be next-gen games. i personally want this game to be the greatest game of all-time,to be highest rated game ever,even higher than legend of zelda ocarina of time.[/quote]