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11/9/2006 12:31:01 AM
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Okay, so the whole Rainbow thing is getting a bit out of hand, lots of flaming, and I think people are getting tired of beating it like a dead horse... however this came out of the thread and I think it's pretty cool so I'm gonna make this nice clean new thread and see what everyone can turn up... or not... I just thought it was cool Ninjito started it off with " I got something for you to add to your theory also.. i was reviewing the cortana letters about a half hour ago and it was talking about cortana being sword or something so i looked it up on wikipedia and this is what it said Carried in the coronation procession between the Sword of Temporal Justice and the Sword of Spiritual Justice. These three swords are believed to have been made for the coronation of Charles I of England, and were among the few items of the crown jewels to escape being melted down by Oliver Cromwell. and on the swords it said "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal." then while i read some more it said each sword took 3 years to make each halo game has took 3 years to make. kinda cool huh" I THOUGHT THIS WAS COOL, SUGGESTED IT WAS AND THE LINK DURANDAL MADE BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON. THEN KryptonDragon CAME UP HUGE WITH THIS: "search "Bulfinch's Mythology - Home Page and Table of Contents" on google, then go to the legends of charlemagne, and near the bottom of the contents yo'll find a link to the story of Ogier, the dane.(can't link, copyrighted page, story is compiled by Thomas Bulfinch) His sword, which he gains after he has been trained most of his life as a soldier, and is superior in every way to his peers, is named Curtana, with the aformentioned inscribing "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana (Durendal)." Ogier, at birth, is givin six blessings before he was baptized 1. to be the bravest warrior, 2. to be able to show his valor, 3.he can't be beaten(vanquished) 4.he will be able to please(serve?) others 5.he is given "sensibility to return to the love he inspires"(not sure what it means, any input is appreciated) 6.claimed by "morgana" and given immortality until he visits her at the isle of Avalon(morgana could be dr. halsey) his baptism is a possible 7th blessing where he is given the name Ogier(maybe Spartan) As compared to master chief, he is 6 years old when he is "baptized" and turned into a spartan(possible correlation, maybe not) Ogier grows up and "In his education nothing was neglected to elevate him to the standard of a perfect knight, and render him accomplished in all the arts necessary to make him a hero. " at the age of 16, charlemagne took him from his father(MC was roughly 14 when he left reach for his first mission and i think that was the last time he saw mendez, can't remember)(charlemagne represents the unsc and the war i think) Ogier saves charlemagne from death in battle with the saracens, he awards ogier and all the children he went to battle with, with knighthood. This is when Ogeir recieves the sword Cortana, which was blessed by the fairy Morgana(dr halsey) (the cortana we know was made from dr. halsey's mind, and it could also refer to the MJOLNIR armor designed by dr.halsey) i haven't finished going through the story,(i've gotta do hmwk) but tell me what u think of it so far, remember this is all just speculatoin" WELL THAT'S AN AWEFUL LOT FOR ONE POST, SO I'LL JUST DROP SOME LINKS TO WIKIPEDIA IF YOU WANT TO DIG DEEPER, AND I'll POST MORE TOMORROW IF THE THREAD NEEDS BUMPING. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtana[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogier_the_Dane[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyeuse[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir[/url] [Edited on 11/9/2006]
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  • Hey Ender, how do Roland and Durandal's story compare to the Marathon trillogy? Seems to me that from the little bit of reading I've done on Marathon that although Durandal eventualls falls to rampancy there was some sort of reference to his code being stored in the main character's mind (what is his name anyway, or did he even have one). Also I seem to remember something about surviving the universe collapsing on itself, if you do you become a god? Maybe I'm getting a bunch of stuff mixed up which is why I'm stoked to meet someone who knows about Marathon. Anyhoo, I've just been kind of curious about Durandal. If he was stored in what's his faces mind they perhapse he was reconstructed, perhapse he is still alive, perhapse part of Cortana was based on Durandal? Another thing I can't resist is the number game... sorry... okay so bungie likes the number 7... how about threes? Two trillogies (Marathon and Halo), I think I heard someone say that so far it's been three years between games (can anyone confirm that?), three swords that supposedly took three years to make each.... Not going to read into this too far but wouldn't it be kind of neat if there was a third trillogy. Again, sorry that was all complete speculation, but it was kind of fun. About the three swords, Joyeuse, Durandal, and Cortana. Yeah it's interesting that two were made by one brother, and the thrid by another. Durandal and Cortana are Human AI, but we haven't met a third (okay scratach that, I guess there were some more in Marathon, but were any of them as important as Durandal?). In the books, and in Halo 2 Cortana mentions a mysterious AI that is surprisingly advanced for the Covenant.... could this be a third AI, Joyeuse, that might play a larger role in H3? A covie AI, or perhapse even a Forerunner AI? A third AI constructed by a "relative" of humanity? Okay, now I'm really going to go out on a limb here.... let's just say for a seccond, suspend belief and work with me for a second (if feels tingly doesn't it). Suppose the Halo Triology is LOOSELY based on the story of Ogier and Cortana, and lets also suppose that the Marathon Trillogy is based somewhat on Rolland and Durandal. Both of these are human stories, but now here's the big leap of faith (again, not saying it's going to happen or anything, just think about it for a seccond and the potencial for coolness). Charlemagne, the King a massive empire, the Forerunners ditto (even in current Haloverse time if only by legacy).... what if the third trillogy is the story of the Forerunners and Joyeuse, their battle agains the flood... the Halos, the Arc... the bridge betwen Marathon and Halo, their plans to save their species (and maybe others... origins of the Covenant?). Halo 3 would be a good segway into a game like that if it begins to delve into the Forerunner story.... heck it might even explain the final screen in Marathon Infinity. Okay you can stop suspending, the wild speculation is over... but I thought I'd put it out there so that you all knew where I was coming from. That's why I'm kind of hoping that Roland's story matches up at least loosely with Marathon's... if not everything kind of falls appart. I think I'm going to post the prose on the final screen of Marathon Infinity so that everyone can see what I'm talking about. [Edited on 11/10/2006]

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