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11/9/2006 12:31:01 AM
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Interesting Corellations

Okay, so the whole Rainbow thing is getting a bit out of hand, lots of flaming, and I think people are getting tired of beating it like a dead horse... however this came out of the thread and I think it's pretty cool so I'm gonna make this nice clean new thread and see what everyone can turn up... or not... I just thought it was cool Ninjito started it off with " I got something for you to add to your theory also.. i was reviewing the cortana letters about a half hour ago and it was talking about cortana being sword or something so i looked it up on wikipedia and this is what it said Carried in the coronation procession between the Sword of Temporal Justice and the Sword of Spiritual Justice. These three swords are believed to have been made for the coronation of Charles I of England, and were among the few items of the crown jewels to escape being melted down by Oliver Cromwell. and on the swords it said "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal." then while i read some more it said each sword took 3 years to make each halo game has took 3 years to make. kinda cool huh" I THOUGHT THIS WAS COOL, SUGGESTED IT WAS AND THE LINK DURANDAL MADE BETWEEN HALO AND MARATHON. THEN KryptonDragon CAME UP HUGE WITH THIS: "search "Bulfinch's Mythology - Home Page and Table of Contents" on google, then go to the legends of charlemagne, and near the bottom of the contents yo'll find a link to the story of Ogier, the dane.(can't link, copyrighted page, story is compiled by Thomas Bulfinch) His sword, which he gains after he has been trained most of his life as a soldier, and is superior in every way to his peers, is named Curtana, with the aformentioned inscribing "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durindana (Durendal)." Ogier, at birth, is givin six blessings before he was baptized 1. to be the bravest warrior, 2. to be able to show his valor, 3.he can't be beaten(vanquished) 4.he will be able to please(serve?) others 5.he is given "sensibility to return to the love he inspires"(not sure what it means, any input is appreciated) 6.claimed by "morgana" and given immortality until he visits her at the isle of Avalon(morgana could be dr. halsey) his baptism is a possible 7th blessing where he is given the name Ogier(maybe Spartan) As compared to master chief, he is 6 years old when he is "baptized" and turned into a spartan(possible correlation, maybe not) Ogier grows up and "In his education nothing was neglected to elevate him to the standard of a perfect knight, and render him accomplished in all the arts necessary to make him a hero. " at the age of 16, charlemagne took him from his father(MC was roughly 14 when he left reach for his first mission and i think that was the last time he saw mendez, can't remember)(charlemagne represents the unsc and the war i think) Ogier saves charlemagne from death in battle with the saracens, he awards ogier and all the children he went to battle with, with knighthood. This is when Ogeir recieves the sword Cortana, which was blessed by the fairy Morgana(dr halsey) (the cortana we know was made from dr. halsey's mind, and it could also refer to the MJOLNIR armor designed by dr.halsey) i haven't finished going through the story,(i've gotta do hmwk) but tell me what u think of it so far, remember this is all just speculatoin" WELL THAT'S AN AWEFUL LOT FOR ONE POST, SO I'LL JUST DROP SOME LINKS TO WIKIPEDIA IF YOU WANT TO DIG DEEPER, AND I'll POST MORE TOMORROW IF THE THREAD NEEDS BUMPING. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtana[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogier_the_Dane[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durendal[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyeuse[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir[/url] [Edited on 11/9/2006]
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  • This is where it gets a bit tricky hey, just how much of the story did Bungie potencially follow/borrow, how much creative licence did they use. Ogier's Father is the one who had him admitted to all of this training from the age of six, and from the age of 16 never really sees him again... So Ogier was in part created from his father, was put into training and never see's his father again from age 16. Who could be MC's equivalent? Humanity? He was created a human, humanity's need for a super soldier is what brought his creation and training to fruition. One could argue that because of all of his augmentations and armour that as of 14 he really wasn't a human anymore, but a cyborg/super human... in that reguard he can never be human again, looses his humanity/father. What does Ogier's father's death bode for humanity in this case? Well he dies eventually, and Ogier is offered the throne, but leaves it to his brother.... don't know how to read into that exactly, but could it be referencing evolution? Chuckmagne - A king who's sword is named Joyeuse.... ummmmm... I'm going to venture a guess... and that's all it is, but I think that Charlemagne is going to be the Forerunners. Haven't really looked at it too hard, but I get a feeling. Ruler of the Galaxie, with a treacherous son named Charlot (Gravemind?) who is eventually slain by Ogier. As for the embrace between Ogier and what's his pickle... perhapse it could signifie a truce between them or maybe even an aliance. Afterall the Arbiter knows the truth now, why would he attempt to stop MC..... I'm so curious to see the game, see if any of this continues to apply, or if we're just blowing smoke.

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