Folks, there is a difference between not liking something and something being bad /poorly designed and I think you (complainers) all should learn this difference. I really don't understand why so many people are complaining? I don't recall seeing this much complaining even with Halo 2 and honestly, I think Halo 3 was a much better game. I was a bit disappointed with Halo 2. Was it because there was so much hype that people inadvertently had such high expectations that no game designer could ever meet? Some arguments I'm going to pull apart. [b]The Sniper Rifle[/b] - So many people complain about the sniper rifle because of it's longer delay. It's quite noticeable, however, one thing is for certain, it weeds out the not-so-good snipers from the excellent snipers. Instead of being able to pull the trigger like a mad man and pump all 4 bullets out faster than you can say Ann Hesch, the delay actually makes you have to take aim and time your shots better. It's not so bad that if you miss once that it's game over, but it makes you think about it more rather than acting like a kid on a sugar high. All I say is this, adapt. I did. I think I am a good sniper, better than most, not the best, hell I played someone last night who had a killer eye and worked me. But I am not going to complain about the sniper, it's not broken. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not the same as Halo 2's. In fact, I prefer the minuet delay anyway, as no person who can't snipe worth crap can't kill me easily by shooting me a second or third time because they missed the initial headshot. [b]Needler [/b]- Why are so many people complaining? It's improved to the point that you actually WANT to pick it up (not everyone but I will). The needler in Halo was good, it broke in Halo 2 and I felt, was completely useless unless there was nothing else to grab. Now people are trying to call it a power house weapon? Why? It takes nearly a full round of needles to kill someone. I could kill 2-4 players with a Battle Rifle before reloading, so why doesn't anyone else claim the BR to be a "powerhouse weapon". It makes no sense. [b]Addition of Items to the Game[/b] - Again why complain? Someone previously posted how he thought it was stupid that you have to worry about items in the game now... Here's your solution: Don't pick them up. Then you don't have to worry about them right? I think it adds to the complexity of the game, it doesn't take away from the simplistic kill or be killed nature of the game by any means, but it adds a little trick up your sleeve and gives you a bit more of a challenge. God forbid you actually have to start THINKING about what you're doing in the game in order to win right? Someone drops a radar jammer, why complain? Learn how to not rely on the radar to kill people. And seriously, there were 3 elements in Halo and Halo 2 to maintain: Primary Weapon, Secondary Weapon, Grenades. They've only added one more element: Items. They really haven't add THAT much more. And I am glad they added the spike grenades because I love to stick people. [b]Pistol [/b]- I do have to agree a little on this one. I haven't decided if it's as powerful as the Halo pistol or not, but it sure as hell shoots slower AND has no zoom. What I think would have been a better fix, was to keep the original Halo pistol BUT remove the zoom. That way, it would still be a sought after weapon for close range combat, but you wouldn't have the player across the map sniping you with it like so many did in Halo (myself being one of them. I don't think I ever picked up any other weapon in Halo unless I had to). But I don't use it enough to complain about it. [b]Mauler and Spiker[/b] - Again, why are you complaining? Would you rather have only a selection of 3 weapons total in a video game? How fun is that? They are similar but they are not the same. A single Mauler is not as powerful as a shotgun, but dual maulers are. But then you lose the ability to melee, but I think the point originally wasn't to make you wield 2 Mauler's but to add the Mauler to another dual wield configuration. I like the spikers, I think they're cool and adding a plasma rifle along with a spiker can be very deadly. But I'm not a dual wielder, I prefer to keep my melee more optional than having to drop a weapon to melee, but that's me. Do you see me complaining? Nope. None here, I like having options. [b]Someone was complaining about dual wielding [/b]- Why? Not many people prefer to dual wield, so what? Are you going to complain because people prefer AR and BR and Carbine over any other weapon? So what? I don't understand where the validity is with this argument. [b]Maps[/b] - I honestly think they did a good job on the maps. Some are not better than Halo 2 maps, then again, some maps in Halo 2 were not better than Halo maps. I think it would be an excellent idea if Bungie released map packs which contained Halo 2 maps and Halo maps that were playable in Ranked and Social Matches as well as Custom games. If you don't have the map, it won't be in your list of options during ranked/social searches, if you do, it'll add it to them. And I am sure most people will get the DL maps as they did with Halo 2. I'm not a fan of Valhala, but I have no complaints with it. I just don't like it, doesn't mean it's a bad map. I hated Guardian at first, but that was because I couldn't figure it out right away, now it is my favorite, but I never complained about the map. I just didn't like it at first. [b]AR[/b] - Everyone complains people use this too much... umm... you spawn with it maybe? It's like in Halo 2 everyone pretty much spawned with a BR, but I didn't see anyone complain about that. Now, in some case I do think some maps you should spawn with a BR instead of the AR, but maybe some people are just too lazy to pick up different weapon..? [b]Hayabusa Armor[/b] - Why oh why do people say this armor is over used? The helmet in particular. Has no one noticed the ungodly amount of people who wear the Rogue helmet? Or the Mark V helmet? Or how about *gasp* the Mark VI helmet? I bet not a single person who has complained about the hayabusa helmet has even stopped to notice, that in the past 10 games, only 4 people have worn the hayabusa, but 15 people wore the rogue, 8 wore the Mark V, 6 wore the Mark VI, and the rest is shared amongst the other styles. Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's not that it's over used, but because it's so distinct from the other helmets that you just happened to notice that one more so than the other helmets? And even then, why are we complaining about it? So you don't like it, good for you, you don't have to wear it. But if I like the helmet, i have every right to wear it. I prefer the rogue helm myself, but i'm not going to complain if someone wants to look like a samurai. And I think the shoulders are sweet, but that is only my opinion. just because my tastes are different from yours doesn't mean I'm going to whine and complain and try to tell you what armor you should or shouldn't wear. I've never seen so many immature gamers out there than I do with Halo. Rainbow Six Vegas, WoW, EQ, has never ever had nearly a fraction the amount of whiners. And whats with this comparing GoW to Halo 3? They're completely different games. First, GoW is more horrific of a game, where Halo takes on a more futuristic feel. How is that comparable? The art styles are different. Does that make one better than the other ? No. It's just you're tastes vary. GoW is a third person shooter, Halo 3 is a first person shooter, ... did someone not notice this? If you like another game, then go play that one, but there is no sense in complaining and looking like a 10 year old coming here and posting about it. I want to reiterate, there is a difference between not liking something and something being bad /poorly designed and I think you (complainers) all should learn this difference. There are many things I 'don't like" about Halo 3, but none of which are 'bad things". I simply don't like them because they are not my preference. The only thing I can point out that I am displeased with is I've noticed the Brute Shot isn't nearly as powerful in multiplayer as it is in campaign, and I wish it were, as I feel I have to dump 1-2 clips into someone to kill them when it should only be 3-4 rounds (they're explosive rounds, it just makes sense). I think most maps have a good sense of balance to them as far as power weapons go, it seems no one side of a map is "top heavy" and most people have a fair chance at a rocket launcher, sword, etc. So many haven't learned to adapt, and lack the skill to control their temper, so the end result is all of us seeing these "blam! halo 3" threads. Which is very sad. Learn to adapt, use your brain and start thinking, just because you can't go on auto pilot anymore and go buck wild trigger happy into a crowd of people and come out the only one alive doesn't mean it's a bad game, it just means you haven't figured out the intricacy of the game yet. Halo 3 is a phenomenal game. I have never played a campaign as much as I have on a mutliplayer-strong game. There are things I like and love and things that I dislike. But by no means do my dislikes equate to a "terrible game". Thank you Bungie. [quote]lukems [quote]His point is "Posting is a privilege not a right, I hope someone can show me that truth."[/quote] Oh, I can show you[/quote] [Edited on 10.11.2007 2:23 PM PDT]