grifball is great! i got two killionaires! i would never have gotten further from killtrocity if not for it, however, the downside is that it is a melee game, i has a bad connection and i have the same melee problem as before the update, just that its lag, not health. bungle should make some way for people with bad connections to be able to match up with those with better connections. i hate it when it clearly shows i hit the guy first and i die!