Wall of text to follow, if you are here on the intent to flame, spam, hijack, troll, etc, then get out. ---- Alright, so as you may know from my other threads, I have really been wondering about the betrayals/boot system, so, I've been looking and thinking about it alot recently. ---- There are different types of betrayals: 1. Deliberate + Intentional betrayals: These usually piss people off the most, knowing that your teammate is deliberately trying to kill/get your shields down. Boot? Yes. 2. Accidental Betrayals: These can range from accidently killing a teammate if you are trying to help him/her kill the enemy, and things like that. Boot? It depends. If the person apologizes, then I wouldn't, but if it happens multiple times from the same person, then yes. 3. Self-caused betrayals: What I mean by this, is when a teammate knows you are sniping, etc, and walk infront of your line of fire. In these cases, it is nobody's fault but the victim. Boot? No, it was your stupidity to do so and get betrayed. 4. Luck-based betrayals: Sometimes you, or a teammate is in the wrong place in the wrong time. For example, the spawn points. If you, or a teammate is on a mad spalattering spree in his/her ghost, and you, or a teammate spawn, and they get betrayed, tough luck. To use a personal scenario, I was on Avalanche, I was lasering a scorpion tank, and a guy spawns in front of me, and I betray him. Boot? No, I would not. My next subject here is booting. Say you were betrayed. The "Boot Player" dialogue appears. What do you do? Here are some things to consider when deciding your betrayers fate: 1. Why did the guy betray you? How were you betrayed? (read above) 2. What impact will it have if the guy is booted? If he the best on the team? 3. Has the player apologized to you? If the player is doing good, and it was an accidental betrayal, then don't boot him. There is no reason whatsoever to be so selfish, and boot a player that is actually benefiting your team. Same goes for if the guy was trying to help you in a situation, and accidently killed you. Dont boot him. If the betrayal was deliberate, eg. for a weapon, to end a spree, etc, your first thought would be "boot". If they are absolutely doing nothing for your team, then it would be appropriate to boot. If they are doing very well, and are helping your teams' success, then give them another chance. If they do it again, then boot 'em. EDIT: My theory for the booting system for whether or whether not it comes up is your history of betrayals...so for example, If you're a guy who doesnt usually betray, if you betray, the dialogue wont pop up, and if you do have a history of betrayals, you have a chance of getting booted every time you betray. ---- I hope this post will help people learn that there's more to a betrayal than deliberate, and to think before you hit the 'boot player' button. ---- More scenarios: On Standoff. 2 Flag heavy. Guy with the flag is running off. I charge my laser up. My teammate has a warthog there. The guy is jumping towards the warthog. I laser the guy, but just BARELY clip the warthog. Betrayal. I put my mic on, and apologize, atleast try to, before I was booted. I would NEVER boot someone for something like this, but I did boot a few people last night too: 1. I pick up a full laser. Teammate charges his laser. Bam. He was aiming for me. He comes over and teabags me and picks up my full laser. Bull-blam!-. 2. Guy blow up my warthog in Rat's Nest and melees my in the driver seat until I die. Booted. [Edited on 02.01.2009 3:24 PM PST]