[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh I'm talking about the needle itself, not entirely the raw strength of the infection form. So here's what we know. John's body suit is composed of a nanocomposite titanium alloy. We know it's bullet proof to a degree. We know an infection form can pierce it. Conclusion: the Flood can pierce bullet proof armor.[/quote] So apparently it's more durable when plot-relevant but is less durable when plot-relevant? Makes sense. [quote]Not according to you several times in that one thread. Did the rules change or something?[/quote] Which thread? Wee Man MJJC proved that wrong. Still impressive though, he resisted a hole not even Silver Surfer or Doc Strange could resist.