[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mr pie123 But what about Halo 1, 2, and 3?[/quote] Too late for bungie to learn from them ... they didnt for reach. Why would they start now?!? Clear example - touch-betrayal booting. Everyone knows the fun people had with the team betrayal booting option in H3 ... Narrows, bump team mate, then jump off bridge - repeat a few times, and bingo the option to boot a team member. It spawned one of the more common sub-playlists, even joined in myself. The number of rage posts that this generated ... but thankfully bungie didnt listen ([i]expected actually[/i]) and the fun continued into reach. Sad part though ... doesnt seem to work under H4 :( The only map which showed some hope was Solace ... but looks like 343 killed the touch-betray fun. Only boot option we have been able to get was when people pick up on our plan and go full on rage.