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1/8/2013 8:09:36 AM
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Does this generation value education enough?
Now, call me old-fashioned, but I was raised to believe school was important. My parents were serious about homework and assignments, and expected good grades from me even in subjects for which I didn't particularly care that much. Ever since I was a little kid, I've known that school was an important thing to be treated seriously.
That's not to say I didn't goof off in class sometimes - I mean, I was a kid, not a robot - but at the end of the day, I always knew it was important to do well, turn my assignments in on time, treat my teachers with respect and be grateful for the opportunities my education offered me. But sadly, it seems like this is an attitude that's less and less common these days. The social aspect of school was always something I saw as a bit of a bonus, but these days, the students at the school where I work seem to see it as nothing more than an excuse to hang out with friends - and what's worse their parents think of it as a free babysitting service that's responsible for raising their kids for them (which doesn't stop them from reacting with outrage when schools try to enforce a little discipline on their precious angels, of course).
What's happened, Flood? It seems so bizarre to me that this much could have changed in the eighteen-odd years since I started my pre-tertiary education. Sometimes I find myself wondering if this attitude has been prevalent for a long time and I was just sheltered from it because my parents sent me to small private schools for my whole school life - but I don't think that's it, because I've seen private school kids display this kind of attitude more and more as well, which is really disappointing.
It makes me sad, because with the benefit of hindsight, I know that my education set me up really well for the rest of my life - it got me into a good college, it made me more socially adept, it taught me manners and discipline (though my parents did most of that), it made me more aware of the world around me and my responsibilities towards other people, and it unlocked potential in me that I may never even have realised was there if it hadn't been brought out by excellent teachers who wanted me to succeed. And yet, plenty of parents seem not to think this, because if they did, they'd be teaching their kids to value their educations, and fewer and fewer parents seem to be doing so.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Captain Richards America? Nope. We have an anti-intellectual football culture that values sports, religion and sex more than intelligence.[/quote] you sound mad. Sports > School
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Actually OP, I believe that your ethnicity has to do with that. Sure im sure all parents want their kids to do good in school. But some types of parents, especially chinese/japanese/asian parents just push their kids much more than lets say the mexicans or white americans. This has been all from my point o view while growing up. I remember when I was in 4th 5th grade at a parents conference thing at school, this Chinese looking girl had her parents make her cry because of some project in front of everyone in the class room. Some parents just get on them for failing. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN7o2Iy89WQ]Like this[/url]
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I think it is because our education system is so deeply flawed. They teach you how to answer questions rather than gain knowledge. I learned so much about ethics and philosophy in my last two years of school, but promptly forgot the vast majority, because I was only remembering key facts, I wasn't learning the material. Looking over the same people again now I am at university is really strange, I feel as if I never really knew anything about them before. Text me verbally, clarifying what you want me to answer and I will always do better than if you sit me down to do a timed essay.
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America? Nope. We have an anti-intellectual football culture that values sports, religion and sex more than intelligence.
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My parents are huge sticklers about school and always try to pressure me into trying harder, but I can't help it - I just don't give a -blam!-. My parents demand B's and A's, but as long as I have at least D's, I'm passing, so it shouldn't really matter. I very much look forward to the day I exit high school and never have to return. And as some other people said - an education isn't as valuable today as earlier generations since pretty much every kid is granted one.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] III H1TMAN III I just believe that school isn't all that important for your future. You need to know some stuff ofcourse, the life basics! But mostly of that could be teached by your parents. [/quote] Yeah... No.[/quote] It's different for you and me. I learn absolutely nothing in my current study and that's why I hate it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ason Unique [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Benergizer [/quote]The job market has changed massively in the last 20-30 years too. It may not be as large as 70% but there are dozens of jobs and areas of study that were unheard of a few decades ago and the job market would be virtually unrecognisable to someone from the 80s or 90s. The advent of a world wide web, and everything that entails, has changed the face of the job market to its very core with the retail and service industries having also boomed massively since then.[/quote]I said precisely that. [quote]Admittedly, given that technology snowballs, this effect will probably become even more evident in the next 20 years or so but the changes themselves are nothing new.[/quote]Yes! As we approach Singularity this phenomenon will only continue.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] III H1TMAN III I just believe that school isn't all that important for your future. You need to know some stuff ofcourse, the life basics! But mostly of that could be teached by your parents. [/quote] Yeah... No.
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While I don't want to denounce this generation at every turn (frankly, every generation has undesirables and standouts), I don't think education is valued enough. Intellectualism seems to be frowned upon, and often times people take the lazy route and go with what is common. This is perhaps how religions have endured the ages, but that's another tangent.
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I just believe that school isn't all that important for your future. You need to know some stuff ofcourse, the life basics! But mostly of that could be teached by your parents.
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I went to middle school in the Middle East. We had school on Saturday but we had pretty long vacations and got to play on a big soccer field in gym class.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie Well, it just proves idiocracy is coming true. Go away Im baitin![/quote] We're all gonna end up with two D's in our names, for double the pimpin'.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NewRadical12 No, they don't. It's not entirely their fault, though; America has an anti-intellectual culture. [/quote]
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No. They value arbitrary papers that say you went to sit in a room for seven hours. The educational system is pretty much a joke now.
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School got me into a huge amount of debt lol. I should've been more careful but that's the way it is. And to all the kids in Middle Schools, get to class on time and pay attention. Kids love to fail their classes.
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We actually talked about this today in my IAH class. It basically started with my stuck up instructor begginning with, "I'm standing here in front of you, and I know more than anyone in this room, probably more than all of you combined." Then he went on to say he's badsically here to "Fuk" our minds up because the American education system is doing a huge injustice to society. Today, the education system is set up to keep you chasing after something else: money, jobs, social standing. It keeps telling you if you succeed in school you can set yourself up for a good life. And it's really not sought of the way it should be. The fact is education is its own part of life, and you should be there to learn, not in hopes for your future job.
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Well, I go to grammar school, and as such, I rarely find anybody who I can see is denying themselves a good education Well, barring the group are kids, who are the kind you see smoking in an alleyway, and the kids who get in from this stupid system, where if you are expelled from another school, you can choose where you go.
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Yes. Every teenager in secondary school needs to know everything on the course to do well in state examinations. Especially the one that determines your future college courses. But this is horrible, because teenagers these days have no time to do anything but homework and study.
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Which generation? I know that there are more college students than ever and fewer dropouts in high school. A lot of people are getting their GEDs. Me along with thousands of others are going for a Masters degree, which I believe is rather high. I'd say we value education.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mastergee Americans don't value education anymore because they are bound to be shot at some point while attending school.[/quote] INCOMING!
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If I recall the numbers of students attending college is at an all time high so I'd guess so.
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I used to care but now I guide my own path. Granted, I'll probably never get a job but if I'm extremely lucky, M$ will finally notice my marvelous ingenuity!
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I want to say no, the same goes for discipline.
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Not at all. It's just that socialism in finland is awesome.
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Schools just want to get good exam grades to make them look good, exam results are useless and employers are complaining. Many students want to learn real skills like economics to help them succeed in life, so yes students want to learn and value education the problem is education doesn't provide the education they want. I would prefer my child to fail their exams but come out knowing how to control their money and how to get somewhere in life. Most people come out of school with straight A's and actually know very little.
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Why would I enjoy education? It sucks. The ONLY reason Im still in school is to get that stupid piece of paper that lets me get a decent job.
