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People are just so stupid in their hate for Halo 4...

I can understand when people don't like the game and have a good reason for it. But I was just on the waypoint forums and god did I see the dumbest reply to a guy that enjoys the game: [quote] no reach was garbage too, I might play some blops 2 or borderlands. definately not playing halo 4 online, just like 6,900,000 other people that bought this game. says it all right there. 6,900,000 not online 100,000 online. This game is terrible and has received no support from the developers. [/quote] Then this idiot replied to that idiot: [quote] That really says it all. 7 mil bought this game and only 100k still play. No one can defend that without coming off as a complete fool. Everybody gave this game a chance and nobody liked it. [/quote] These idiots really expected to see ALL 7 MILLION PEOPLED THAT BOUGHT THE GAME TO BE ONLINE! I've never seen something as ludicrous as that on those forums. No game has ever had every player that bought the game online simultaneously, Not 3, not 2, not Cod. Yet this guy acts as if halo 4 is the only game that this happens to so that obviously means everyone hates the game and it's garbage. You guys can go ahead and bag on the game all you want, but you have to agree that both of those guys are complete -blam!-.
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  • True but it's lower than any othe Halo game for it being this close to release

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 So taking out pointless things that were already hated when the games were released is seen as bad now? Things like sprinting make the game quicker paced and make the game have a better tempo. You all just hate Halo 4 because its new and you'll love it once Halo 5 comes out. And lol back @ you since your Halo 3 K/D isn't very different.[/quote] Wow, you 343bots all just resort to the same cliche arguments. HALO REACH IS STILL NOT GOOD. Just because that cycle worked a little bit for Halo 2 and Halo 3 doesn't mean that it continues. Reach and Halo 4 both started off largely hated and have continued to be hated with little activity. And no, all sprinting along with instant respawn did was upset the balance of tempo in the game and made it easy to kill the guy who just killed you. It's pointless even with how the movement speed was increased already. 343 just copy and pastes what Reach and CoD do though so I guess we shouldn't expect different (kill cams, sprinting, instant respawn, care packages, custom classes, different weapon starts, etc.) Plus my brother plays on my gamertag with friends so it brought down my K/D. I could take you 1 v 1 any day.[/quote] That's why people are starting to praise things from Halo reach again. And I don't know how many times I have to say it to get it in your -blam!- skull but it isn't copying CoD and CoD didn't invent those things. They all change up the gameplay and make it different, you probably just want Halo 3 HD.[/quote] Reported[/quote] Really now? That's very mature. How about you address my post.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godshatter I'm liking Halo 4 precisely because it isn't as predictable as the other Halo games, and I played 4000 games of Halo 2 back in the day and loved it. It's chaos and I like that. Plus, with the larger maps it means that every time I engage in a battle I choose where the battle will happen. For me, Halo 4 rewards the patient player and ruthlessly punishes the rushing non-thinking player and I love that.[/quote] Lack of predictability just makes for games so utterly random that I find it hard to feel passionate or interested in them. Players randomly get power weapons, so whats the point in trying? With older games there was the fear of the one enemy with the Sniper or the fear that the Spartan Laser is missing, but with H4 because of ordinance drops and instant respawn I don't have to give a damn because I'll probably get a power weapon myself and if I die I don't have to wait at all. I like you played 8000 games of Halo 2 back in the day as well and with H2 there never was that element of chaos or randomness. Wraiths spawned predictably, 2 snipers on Coag, 2 rocket launchers on Containment, 1 sword on Headlong. Halo 4 plays like Halo 2 Fiesta, so utterly random that it can't be taken seriously. But whereas Fiesta is just a mode and was meant to be just chaotic fun Halo 4 is like that [i]all the time[/i] which isn't fun. There is no sense of drama in a game where there is nothing at stake.

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  • @flamedude I'm usually not like this, but DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE -blam!- YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?!?!?! If you honestly think that Halo: Reach has a better multiplayer, go play it right now and than do 5 matches in pre-TU Team Slayer. After that, go play 5 matches of Halo 4's Infinity Slayer. If you honest to god have a better time playing Halo: Reach......... Think really hard. They both have one weapons sandboxes, but Halo 4's isn't as bad as Halo: Reach's. AAs? Next topic. Maps..... Pick Haven or Uncaged? Complex or Sword Base? You say tactically creative? Okay, none of the remakes. Still tactically creative? And then the "Killboxes". Keep winning and actually doing good. You'll get matched up with people who actually know what the hell they are doing.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Noobus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Noobus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I Halo 4 is bad because it made unnecessary changes in order to cater towards thumbless children like myself. .[/quote]FTFY[/quote][/quote][/quote] ^^ this guy " you disagree with me you suck " Pathetic Mythic member is pathetic And I'm 100% sure I'm superior at halo 3 then you. [Edited on 01.02.2013 8:42 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] 1 word: Objectives. Since theirs no ranked I honestly don't care how poorly I do in games now, but I can proudly say I can beat you in a 1v1[/quote] You're doing an [i]excellent[/i] job at getting the objective if your W/L is 42%. Please. You'd be a waste of time in a 1v1.[/quote] Can't say that till you play me. I don't have the time to go tryhard on every game like you "pros" but I can easily say that I can beat you 1v1. W/L 42% what did I say about no ranked? Oh yea, it means I don't care about my performance in the game, and playing with randoms make being a 1 man team a whole lot harder.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 You wouldn't understand since you're a disgusting casual and Halo Reach is babby's first Halo. And lol oh you did play Halo 3 with a 1.0 K/D. It's people like you who they shouldn't be catering to. And change has shades of grey and in this case changed the games core completely. Halo 2 and 3 added things like dual wielding and equipment which made the gameplay better while Halo Reach and Halo 4 took a dump on the game and changed its core. [/quote] So taking out pointless things that were already hated when the games were released is seen as bad now? Things like sprinting make the game quicker paced and make the game have a better tempo. You all just hate Halo 4 because its new and you'll love it once Halo 5 comes out. And lol back @ you since your Halo 3 K/D isn't very different.[/quote] Wow, you 343bots all just resort to the same cliche arguments. HALO REACH IS STILL NOT GOOD. Just because that cycle worked a little bit for Halo 2 and Halo 3 doesn't mean that it continues. Reach and Halo 4 both started off largely hated and have continued to be hated with little activity. And no, all sprinting along with instant respawn did was upset the balance of tempo in the game and made it easy to kill the guy who just killed you. It's pointless even with how the movement speed was increased already. 343 just copy and pastes what Reach and CoD do though so I guess we shouldn't expect different (kill cams, sprinting, instant respawn, care packages, custom classes, different weapon starts, etc.) Plus my brother plays on my gamertag with friends so it brought down my K/D. I could take you 1 v 1 any day.[/quote] That's why people are starting to praise things from Halo reach again. And I don't know how many times I have to say it to get it in your -blam!- skull but it isn't copying CoD and CoD didn't invent those things. They all change up the gameplay and make it different, you probably just want Halo 3 HD.[/quote] Reported

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] 1 word: Objectives. Since theirs no ranked I honestly don't care how poorly I do in games now, but I can proudly say I can beat you in a 1v1[/quote] Top playlist Slayer Regicide Oddbal 2/3 based on killing to win lol[/quote]WHAT ARE YOU DOING HE WAS AGREEING WITH YOU

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] 1 word: Objectives. Since theirs no ranked I honestly don't care how poorly I do in games now, but I can proudly say I can beat you in a 1v1[/quote] You're doing an [i]excellent[/i] job at getting the objective if your W/L is 42%. Please. You'd be a waste of time in a 1v1.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] 1 word: Objectives. Since theirs no ranked I honestly don't care how poorly I do in games now, but I can proudly say I can beat you in a 1v1[/quote] Top playlist Slayer Regicide Oddbal 2/3 based on killing to win lol

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] Ouch. That's...... a bit below the belt isn't it? I don't think Halo stat prowess necessarily makes you better at commenting on the intricacies of video game design. Just as being a good driver means you can comment on the finer points of car design.[/quote] Are you seriously going to listen to the guy who has no idea what the brakes are compared to the guy who can drive efficiently even in inclement weather?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Noobus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I Halo 4 is bad because it made unnecessary changes in order to cater towards thumbless children like myself. .[/quote]FTFY[/quote][/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] 1 word: Objectives. [/quote]I can't breathe

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 Hurr, adding things that are in many popular games = copying Call of Duty, right? Halo 4 changed things and added things so it would be more interesting and faster paced, idiot.[/quote] You wouldn't understand since you're a disgusting casual and Halo Reach is babby's first Halo. And lol oh you did play Halo 3 with a 1.0 K/D. It's people like you who they shouldn't be catering to. And change has shades of grey and in this case changed the games core completely. Halo 2 and 3 added things like dual wielding and equipment which made the gameplay better while Halo Reach and Halo 4 took a dump on the game and changed its core. [/quote] So taking out pointless things that were already hated when the games were released is seen as bad now? Things like sprinting make the game quicker paced and make the game have a better tempo. You all just hate Halo 4 because its new and you'll love it once Halo 5 comes out. And lol back @ you since your Halo 3 K/D isn't very different.[/quote] Wow, you 343bots all just resort to the same cliche arguments. HALO REACH IS STILL NOT GOOD. Just because that cycle worked a little bit for Halo 2 and Halo 3 doesn't mean that it continues. Reach and Halo 4 both started off largely hated and have continued to be hated with little activity. And no, all sprinting along with instant respawn did was upset the balance of tempo in the game and made it easy to kill the guy who just killed you. It's pointless even with how the movement speed was increased already. 343 just copy and pastes what Reach and CoD do though so I guess we shouldn't expect different (kill cams, sprinting, instant respawn, care packages, custom classes, different weapon starts, etc.) Plus my brother plays on my gamertag with friends so it brought down my K/D. I could take you 1 v 1 any day.[/quote] That's why people are starting to praise things from Halo reach again. And I don't know how many times I have to say it to get it in your -blam!- skull but it isn't copying CoD and CoD didn't invent those things. They all change up the gameplay and make it different, you probably just want Halo 3 HD.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Direct Control I gave Halo 4 a chance, and I didn't like it at all. I played it for a couple of weeks and stopped entirely. The campaign and Spartan Ops were the only parts I enjoyed. Multiplayer is complete -blam!-. Killcams, dynamic -blam!- spawns, terrible maps, and loadouts. I've played Halo my entire life, but Halo 4 dropped the ball multiplayer wise.[/quote] While I can't say I really enjoy 4v4 slayer anymore, BTB is very much enjoyable. I suggest getting your team of 4 and going into that.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] 1 word: Objectives. Since theirs no ranked I honestly don't care how poorly I do in games now, but I can proudly say I can beat you in a 1v1

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godshatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] Map control doesn't exist in Halo 4. Not even in maps that might have encouraged it with older style rules like Ragnarok or Exile. Fact is instant-respawn discourages map control and the map designs themselves make for maps with no bases and no areas of focus except the central killbox. Remember maps like Boneyard? Or Standoff? They allowed (and encouraged) map control.[/quote]Map control got a bit boring after awhile for me. Learn the power weapon spawns, learn when they spawn, camp the high-ground (usually), making trips to the power weapon spawns just before they spawn.. Plus the slow movement speed of other Halo games (2&3) meant that if your team had a bad start it was hard to make up ground because the other team would control the power weapons and the good sight lines of the maps. I'm liking Halo 4 precisely because it isn't as predictable as the other Halo games, and I played 4000 games of Halo 2 back in the day and loved it. It's chaos and I like that. Plus, with the larger maps it means that every time I engage in a battle I choose where the battle will happen. For me, Halo 4 rewards the patient player and ruthlessly punishes the rushing non-thinking player and I love that.[/quote]have my babies

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] General Noobus [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I Halo 4 is bad because it CHANGES and the community is a bunch of babies who can't handel it .[/quote]FTFY[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] Ouch. That's...... a bit below the belt isn't it? I don't think Halo stat prowess necessarily makes you better at commenting on the intricacies of video game design. Just as being a good driver means you can comment on the finer points of car design.[/quote]The bad stats are more of a confirmation than a proof.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] Map control doesn't exist in Halo 4. Not even in maps that might have encouraged it with older style rules like Ragnarok or Exile. Fact is instant-respawn discourages map control and the map designs themselves make for maps with no bases and no areas of focus except the central killbox. Remember maps like Boneyard? Or Standoff? They allowed (and encouraged) map control.[/quote]Map control got a bit boring after awhile for me. Learn the power weapon spawns, learn when they spawn, camp the high-ground (usually), making trips to the power weapon spawns just before they spawn.. Plus the slow movement speed of other Halo games (2&3) meant that if your team had a bad start it was hard to make up ground because the other team would control the power weapons and the good sight lines of the maps. I'm liking Halo 4 precisely because it isn't as predictable as the other Halo games, and I played 4000 games of Halo 2 back in the day and loved it. It's chaos and I like that. Plus, with the larger maps it means that every time I engage in a battle I choose where the battle will happen. For me, Halo 4 rewards the patient player and ruthlessly punishes the rushing non-thinking player and I love that.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RustedEdge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url][/quote] Ouch. That's...... a bit below the belt isn't it? I don't think Halo stat prowess necessarily makes you better at commenting on the intricacies of video game design. Just as being a good driver means you can comment on the finer points of car design.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NavG123 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MartinOfRedwall I don't like Halo 4 because it was the first Halo to [b]REMOVE[/b] certain Halo dynamics. All Reach did was add a few dynamics. In this respect, I like Reach more.[/quote]Out of curiosity, what did H4 remove in your opinion?[/quote] Yes, I would like to know what Halo 4 removed that Reach did not.[/quote] Eh? You really haven't noticed anything missing from H4?? Assault, firefight, classic CTF, knocking people out of scope, ammo spawns, respawn timer..... I mean do you want more? There's a lot more.[/quote]Halo 4 took out those things. Halo: Reach has greNUKES, Out right BROKEN armor Abilities, a one weapon sandbox which sucked ass due to bloom, and terribad maps, but Halo: Reach was somehow better? Dafuq?[/quote] Because Reach was a good game let down by a few major issues like AA and bloom. H4 is a bad game that has occasional glimpses of greatness. Do you honestly think that H4 maps are good? I've been jumping between H4 and Reach for the last week and Reach has much better and more interesting and more tactically creative maps. H4 just has centralized killboxes with bored players running into them and respawning instantly. Yeah H4 did take out those things, that's my point?[/quote] Um. Lemme list of the maps that sucked All forge world maps Reflection Zealot Ya know all maps besides the beta ones and countdown sucked

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Tiny Demon I Halo 4 is bad because it took what made Halo great and threw it out the window.[/quote]FTFY

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bergXX09 CHANGE = BLACK AND WHITE ARENA SHOOTER = ARCADE SHOOTER YOU CAN'T DISLIKE A GAME BECAUSE IT ISN'T FUN FOR YOU THIS IS JUST THE CYCLE OF HATING ON A GAME There, now all argument you will ever use is readily available for you from my post.[/quote] Hurr, adding things that are in many popular games = copying Call of Duty, right? Halo 4 changed things and added things so it would be more interesting and faster paced, idiot.[/quote] You wouldn't understand since you're a disgusting casual and Halo Reach is babby's first Halo. And lol oh you did play Halo 3 with a 1.0 K/D. It's people like you who they shouldn't be catering to. And change has shades of grey and in this case changed the games core completely. Halo 2 and 3 added things like dual wielding and equipment which made the gameplay better while Halo Reach and Halo 4 took a dump on the game and changed its core. [/quote] So taking out pointless things that were already hated when the games were released is seen as bad now? Things like sprinting make the game quicker paced and make the game have a better tempo. You all just hate Halo 4 because its new and you'll love it once Halo 5 comes out. And lol back @ you since your Halo 3 K/D isn't very different.[/quote] Wow, you 343bots all just resort to the same cliche arguments. HALO REACH IS STILL NOT GOOD. Just because that cycle worked a little bit for Halo 2 and Halo 3 doesn't mean that it continues. Reach and Halo 4 both started off largely hated and have continued to be hated with little activity. And no, all sprinting along with instant respawn did was upset the balance of tempo in the game and made it easy to kill the guy who just killed you. It's pointless even with how the movement speed was increased already. 343 just copy and pastes what Reach and CoD do though so I guess we shouldn't expect different (kill cams, sprinting, instant respawn, care packages, custom classes, different weapon starts, etc.) Plus my brother plays on my gamertag with friends so it brought down my K/D. I could take you 1 v 1 any day.

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  • And "no support from the developers", they put out weekly playlist updates and have patched the game 3 times in 2 months.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] msonic98 Oh trust me, map control is VERY easy in Halo 4, more so than other halos. In IS just have you're team camp a spot and then keep getting O. drops and the BAM! the other team can't get within fifteen feet within you without getting binary killed or blasted by an incineration cannon.[/quote] [url=http://www.halotracker.com/H4/msonic98]You have no idea what you're talking about.[/url]

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