They're not weak, humanity just caught up.

Of the things I mentioned, only 1 of them (Mammoth rail gun) was caused by an advanced technology. The rest were caused by things that existed before Halo 4. Cortana was 8 years old, and is not a recent AI, like BB, who would have the recent technological innovations. The nuke was a HAVOK missile, IIRC, which existed long before Halo 4 and was not enhanced by recent technological breakthroughs. Chief's vastly inferior combat skin could still survive sustained fire by weapons intended to contain Didact. The Forerunner's were underwhelming, is what I'm saying.

I for one, preferred it when the forerunners where faceless and mysterious. Now in my mind I keep seeing a hybrid of a Human/San 'Shyuum [Prophets] lovechild with a new kind of Mass Effect mixed with Halo Wars kind of atmosphere. The Didact was disappointing and the Forerunner tech was underwhelming on a galactic scale [lol]. Halo 4 isn't a bad game. It's just overrated in many areas. For a change in direction. It could have been worse I guess. I'm just to a large extent disappointed with the followthrough. I've never been so bored/meh at playing a campaign level with forerunners as the focal point of interest. There was no motivation whatsoever, no intrigue or curiosity. Just more of the same forerunner architecture, on a larger scale and don't forget the portals!

The didact almost destroyed mankind, you think he is weak ? How do you think did he die ? Without cortana's help, or if only they werent standing on a light bridge, humanity would have been doomed. As you can see from the game that getting near to didact is extremely hard, even on forerunner scale, aswell as you didnt actually see forerunner weapons, you saw promethean weapons, which are robots, would you trust your robots the strongest weapons ? The composer has been destroyed by HAVOK nuke because it was inside, the shields, dont let the explosion wave pass, making the nuke much more stronger... Find me a race, that has a ship which can handle a nuke explosion inside with shields that double, triple the explosion wave. Cortana may not be new, but you dont see AI's like cortana or even older AI's everywhere, they are extremely rare, almost every forerunner had an ancilia, also can you please tell me where didact says that cortana is impressive ? Otherwise the forerunner ancilia are way stronger than cortana. There are many explanations to why the didact is shorter than 15 foot, it depends on his mutation, maybe he has some special mutation before SPOILERS !!!! Before the librarian tried to kill him.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen I for one, preferred it when the forerunners where faceless and mysterious.[/quote]So did I. I agree with the OP the Forerunner tech seemed weak compared to previous games and what we "know" about it. For example the Keyship that Truth had plowed through the entire Earth fleet yet what seems to be a ship designed for war, it is the Didacts ship after all, was destroyed by a nuke and one ship?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 The didact almost destroyed mankind, you think he is weak ? How do you think did he die ? Without cortana's help, or if only they werent standing on a light bridge, humanity would have been doomed. As you can see from the game that getting near to didact is extremely hard, even on forerunner scale, aswell as you didnt actually see forerunner weapons, you saw promethean weapons, which are robots, would you trust your robots the strongest weapons ? The composer has been destroyed by HAVOK nuke because it was inside, the shields, dont let the explosion wave pass, making the nuke much more stronger... Find me a race, that has a ship which can handle a nuke explosion inside with shields that double, triple the explosion wave. Cortana may not be new, but you dont see AI's like cortana or even older AI's everywhere, they are extremely rare, almost every forerunner had an ancilia, also can you please tell me where didact says that cortana is impressive ? Otherwise the forerunner ancilia are way stronger than cortana. There are many explanations to why the didact is shorter than 15 foot, it depends on his mutation, maybe he has some special mutation before SPOILERS !!!! Before the librarian tried to kill him. [/quote] Yes, Didact has his force choke, but all it really took to kill him was a grenade and a drop into a pool of swirling energy-lava stuff. Seemed rather anticlimactic. The Prometheans were supposed to be guarding Didact, one of the most dangerous beings alive. They should have strong weapons, otherwise, how could they stop him from escaping? Even so, the HAVOK is not the UNSC's strongest nuke. Considering the Keyship took several MACs and a bombing run without a single scratch after plowing through the entire Earth defense fleet (and we saw no shields activate), a single HAVOK is pitifully small. Near the end of the game, when you plug Cortana into a terminal on Didact's ship, Didact says something along the lines of "This is what you have been hiding? An evolved ancilla?" and mentions that he can not find Cortana in the system and is later locked out by Cortana. He may have mutated, but it is still a far cry from 15 feet tall with limbs like tree trunks. In addition, mutations require another Forerunner. Hopefully Silentium will shed some light on why he is so small.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 The didact almost destroyed mankind, you think he is weak ? How do you think did he die ? Without cortana's help, or if only they werent standing on a light bridge, humanity would have been doomed. As you can see from the game that getting near to didact is extremely hard, even on forerunner scale, aswell as you didnt actually see forerunner weapons, you saw promethean weapons, which are robots, would you trust your robots the strongest weapons ? The composer has been destroyed by HAVOK nuke because it was inside, the shields, dont let the explosion wave pass, making the nuke much more stronger... Find me a race, that has a ship which can handle a nuke explosion inside with shields that double, triple the explosion wave. Cortana may not be new, but you dont see AI's like cortana or even older AI's everywhere, they are extremely rare, almost every forerunner had an ancilia, also can you please tell me where didact says that cortana is impressive ? Otherwise the forerunner ancilia are way stronger than cortana. There are many explanations to why the didact is shorter than 15 foot, it depends on his mutation, maybe he has some special mutation before SPOILERS !!!! Before the librarian tried to kill him. [/quote] Yes, Didact has his force choke, but all it really took to kill him was a grenade and a drop into a pool of swirling energy-lava stuff. Seemed rather anticlimactic. The Prometheans were supposed to be guarding Didact, one of the most dangerous beings alive. They should have strong weapons, otherwise, how could they stop him from escaping? Even so, the HAVOK is not the UNSC's strongest nuke. Considering the Keyship took several MACs and a bombing run without a single scratch after plowing through the entire Earth defense fleet (and we saw no shields activate), a single HAVOK is pitifully small. Near the end of the game, when you plug Cortana into a terminal on Didact's ship, Didact says something along the lines of "This is what you have been hiding? An evolved ancilla?" and mentions that he can not find Cortana in the system and is later locked out by Cortana. He may have mutated, but it is still a far cry from 15 feet tall with limbs like tree trunks. In addition, mutations require another Forerunner. Hopefully Silentium will shed some light on why he is so small.[/quote] I cannot answer that all, but il do my best... Well yes, i agree the death of didact by a grenade is something unexpected, but we cant be sure if he actually died from the grenade, the energy obviously would have killed him. And yet we dont know if he actually died ? I mean my general idea about halo 5 is that the didact comes back, i mean how can the story continue ? Well you can see that they werent meant to "guard" him, they were made by the didact himself to fight the flood. Aswell as, we can see that the didact needs someone else to escape, he cant escape himself. That can be explained, the Composer wasnt meant to be a military ship, it is more like of a scientific station. The keyships even if not fully meant for war, are still warships, they were used to fight before they had a specific meaning (activating portals). Maybe he meant as in an advanced for humans ? Or something like that, i completely agree on your point but its kinda hard to believe that cortana even matches a regular ancilia. Maybe he meant evolved ancilia in terms of feelings ? She wants to feel everything around her. I agree on the last thing, its kinda strange for a forerunner, but remember that when chief was actually near to the didact (enough to compare between the two) you can see that the didact is a bit taller, aswell as remember that the didact inhanced MC making him taller, i can tell that he is taller comparing him to Palmer. Overall, these are just my theories and i cannot actually proove anything.

Well, either way, 343 had best correct the story here with the Didact and Librarian (which I felt was a slap in the face by her only appearing for a matter of moments) before I stand out in front of their office and snap the disk in half. Won't do much but it will make me feel better. Through the Lore of the original Trilogy as well as all of the books, most importantly the ones written by Greg Bear, the Didact seen in this game is obviously not Bornsteller. The Prometheans met in the game are entirely left field but I enjoyed their presence to an extent. The 'Didact', however, did not seem as powerful as he should have been. This race once spanned the galaxy and held phenomenal technology. Compared to their technology from the lore/books, coupled with what we've seen, and their ability to combat mankind in their own timeline.. I wouldn't say that Mankind caught up in any respect. If you recall, guilty Spark (Chakas) refers to John's armor in Halo 1 as being inferior on multiple tiers which left John in disbelief. I enjoyed the game it was good to see many of the references from the story stand out, but the ending as well as the Didacts appearance coupled with the Librarian....it just left a sour taste in my mouth. It's like they wanted to cram too much drama and not enough accuracy into the game which has had one of the shortest campaigns I have played in the Halo Series for a while. There was quite a bit of content but.. it just didn't feel right. They don't know quite have that edge that the original trilogy did with John. I'm birdwalking here. there is an obvious gap in technology between Humanity and the Forerunners, even moreso with the Precursors. There is endless lore and depth that they can explore and branch from and regardless of if I enjoyed the game they need to -stick to the damn roots.- Bornsteller had best make an appearance. The Librarian needs a more involved role, and dammit it wouldn't hurt for John to be reunited with Fred, Kelly, and Linda...but that's just a dream of mine.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 The didact almost destroyed mankind, you think he is weak ? How do you think did he die ? Without cortana's help, or if only they werent standing on a light bridge, humanity would have been doomed. As you can see from the game that getting near to didact is extremely hard, even on forerunner scale, aswell as you didnt actually see forerunner weapons, you saw promethean weapons, which are robots, would you trust your robots the strongest weapons ? The composer has been destroyed by HAVOK nuke because it was inside, the shields, dont let the explosion wave pass, making the nuke much more stronger... Find me a race, that has a ship which can handle a nuke explosion inside with shields that double, triple the explosion wave. Cortana may not be new, but you dont see AI's like cortana or even older AI's everywhere, they are extremely rare, almost every forerunner had an ancilia, also can you please tell me where didact says that cortana is impressive ? Otherwise the forerunner ancilia are way stronger than cortana. There are many explanations to why the didact is shorter than 15 foot, it depends on his mutation, maybe he has some special mutation before SPOILERS !!!! Before the librarian tried to kill him. [/quote] Yes, Didact has his force choke, but all it really took to kill him was a grenade and a drop into a pool of swirling energy-lava stuff. Seemed rather anticlimactic. The Prometheans were supposed to be guarding Didact, one of the most dangerous beings alive. They should have strong weapons, otherwise, how could they stop him from escaping? Even so, the HAVOK is not the UNSC's strongest nuke. Considering the Keyship took several MACs and a bombing run without a single scratch after plowing through the entire Earth defense fleet (and we saw no shields activate), a single HAVOK is pitifully small. Near the end of the game, when you plug Cortana into a terminal on Didact's ship, Didact says something along the lines of "This is what you have been hiding? An evolved ancilla?" and mentions that he can not find Cortana in the system and is later locked out by Cortana. He may have mutated, but it is still a far cry from 15 feet tall with limbs like tree trunks. In addition, mutations require another Forerunner. Hopefully Silentium will shed some light on why he is so small.[/quote] I cannot answer that all, but il do my best... Well yes, i agree the death of didact by a grenade is something unexpected, but we cant be sure if he actually died from the grenade, the energy obviously would have killed him. And yet we dont know if he actually died ? I mean my general idea about halo 5 is that the didact comes back, i mean how can the story continue ? Well you can see that they werent meant to "guard" him, they were made by the didact himself to fight the flood. Aswell as, we can see that the didact needs someone else to escape, he cant escape himself. That can be explained, the Composer wasnt meant to be a military ship, it is more like of a scientific station. The keyships even if not fully meant for war, are still warships, they were used to fight before they had a specific meaning (activating portals). Maybe he meant as in an advanced for humans ? Or something like that, i completely agree on your point but its kinda hard to believe that cortana even matches a regular ancilia. Maybe he meant evolved ancilia in terms of feelings ? She wants to feel everything around her. I agree on the last thing, its kinda strange for a forerunner, but remember that when chief was actually near to the didact (enough to compare between the two) you can see that the didact is a bit taller, aswell as remember that the didact inhanced MC making him taller, i can tell that he is taller comparing him to Palmer. Overall, these are just my theories and i cannot actually proove anything.[/quote] He most likely died. He got a grenade to the face, thrown in the energy pool, and then had his ship blown up by a nuke. Hopefully, the Precursors will be the new villains. However, that is a matter for another time. Until confirmed otherwise, I think Didact is dead. They were repurposed. If they were intended to help Didact they would have done so. It is not until Didact escapes do the Prometheans turn red and start aiding him. Before that they were trying to stop you from getting to the Didact. While it is possible that it is a non-combatant ship, it is definitely packing a ton of firepower for something not meant for war. In addition, the Didact's ship would definitely be heavilly armoured alongside the fact the the stuff Forerunners build there ships out of is really strong. Cortana manages to lock Didact out of the system temporarily and evade his capture for a while in the ship. While evolved could mean in terms of humanity, like you said, Cortana does demonstrate that she can beat whatever ancilla or security the Didact has. Do you mean when the Librarian evolves Chief? Because before that, when the Didact first appears, he pulls Chief close to him and they are similar in height then too.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FTW 1997 The didact almost destroyed mankind, you think he is weak ? How do you think did he die ? Without cortana's help, or if only they werent standing on a light bridge, humanity would have been doomed. As you can see from the game that getting near to didact is extremely hard, even on forerunner scale, aswell as you didnt actually see forerunner weapons, you saw promethean weapons, which are robots, would you trust your robots the strongest weapons ? The composer has been destroyed by HAVOK nuke because it was inside, the shields, dont let the explosion wave pass, making the nuke much more stronger... Find me a race, that has a ship which can handle a nuke explosion inside with shields that double, triple the explosion wave. Cortana may not be new, but you dont see AI's like cortana or even older AI's everywhere, they are extremely rare, almost every forerunner had an ancilia, also can you please tell me where didact says that cortana is impressive ? Otherwise the forerunner ancilia are way stronger than cortana. There are many explanations to why the didact is shorter than 15 foot, it depends on his mutation, maybe he has some special mutation before SPOILERS !!!! Before the librarian tried to kill him. [/quote] Yes, Didact has his force choke, but all it really took to kill him was a grenade and a drop into a pool of swirling energy-lava stuff. Seemed rather anticlimactic. The Prometheans were supposed to be guarding Didact, one of the most dangerous beings alive. They should have strong weapons, otherwise, how could they stop him from escaping? Even so, the HAVOK is not the UNSC's strongest nuke. Considering the Keyship took several MACs and a bombing run without a single scratch after plowing through the entire Earth defense fleet (and we saw no shields activate), a single HAVOK is pitifully small. Near the end of the game, when you plug Cortana into a terminal on Didact's ship, Didact says something along the lines of "This is what you have been hiding? An evolved ancilla?" and mentions that he can not find Cortana in the system and is later locked out by Cortana. He may have mutated, but it is still a far cry from 15 feet tall with limbs like tree trunks. In addition, mutations require another Forerunner. Hopefully Silentium will shed some light on why he is so small.[/quote] I cannot answer that all, but il do my best... Well yes, i agree the death of didact by a grenade is something unexpected, but we cant be sure if he actually died from the grenade, the energy obviously would have killed him. And yet we dont know if he actually died ? I mean my general idea about halo 5 is that the didact comes back, i mean how can the story continue ? Well you can see that they werent meant to "guard" him, they were made by the didact himself to fight the flood. Aswell as, we can see that the didact needs someone else to escape, he cant escape himself. That can be explained, the Composer wasnt meant to be a military ship, it is more like of a scientific station. The keyships even if not fully meant for war, are still warships, they were used to fight before they had a specific meaning (activating portals). Maybe he meant as in an advanced for humans ? Or something like that, i completely agree on your point but its kinda hard to believe that cortana even matches a regular ancilia. Maybe he meant evolved ancilia in terms of feelings ? She wants to feel everything around her. I agree on the last thing, its kinda strange for a forerunner, but remember that when chief was actually near to the didact (enough to compare between the two) you can see that the didact is a bit taller, aswell as remember that the didact inhanced MC making him taller, i can tell that he is taller comparing him to Palmer. Overall, these are just my theories and i cannot actually proove anything.[/quote] He most likely died. He got a grenade to the face, thrown in the energy pool, and then had his ship blown up by a nuke. Hopefully, the Precursors will be the new villains. However, that is a matter for another time. Until confirmed otherwise, I think Didact is dead. They were repurposed. If they were intended to help Didact they would have done so. It is not until Didact escapes do the Prometheans turn red and start aiding him. Before that they were trying to stop you from getting to the Didact. While it is possible that it is a non-combatant ship, it is definitely packing a ton of firepower for something not meant for war. In addition, the Didact's ship would definitely be heavilly armoured alongside the fact the the stuff Forerunners build there ships out of is really strong. Cortana manages to lock Didact out of the system temporarily and evade his capture for a while in the ship. While evolved could mean in terms of humanity, like you said, Cortana does demonstrate that she can beat whatever ancilla or security the Didact has. Do you mean when the Librarian evolves Chief? Because before that, when the Didact first appears, he pulls Chief close to him and they are similar in height then too. [/quote] To be honest, i dont want precursors as enemies, precursors are way more advanced than forerunners and now that cortana's gone, it would be an overkill for precursors. Yes but i still think that normal forerunner soldier class is stronger, obviously having more logical moves and more powerfull equipment. Well i guess those are just defences fortified to hold off the flood a little while the prometheans go battle it. I mean the didact alone ported into a flood infected area in the terminals, even if he had prometheans the flood could have borded, the infestation wasnt small. Yet, i cannot back that up. The thing is, that we are not sure if the didact did actually have an ancillia, i mean he was laying in the same place for 100,000 years, even the strongest "contender class" go to rampancy, i doubt librarian would leave him with an ancilia anyway. But i agree, Cortana did a pretty impressive job. Yes thats exactly what i meant, you can see that before the chief got evolved the didact was sagnifically bigger put the timer to [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4P2rZ0ujJU]01:54[/url] and you can see difference between unevolved chief and didact.

Regarding the nuke inside the ship, it isn't the nuke that destroys the entire ship. It's the nuke reacting with the core and with the energy of the composer that does it. The ship's core explosion would probably be enough to explode most of the ship, and the composer's energy would only increase its size. The nuke just causes the chain reaction that causes the ship to blow up.

Thats another explanation to why the ship had been destroyed. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] frgt to link gt Regarding the nuke inside the ship, it isn't the nuke that destroys the entire ship. It's the nuke reacting with the core and with the energy of the composer that does it. The ship's core explosion would probably be enough to explode most of the ship, and the composer's energy would only increase its size. The nuke just causes the chain reaction that causes the ship to blow up.[/quote]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] frgt to link gt Regarding the nuke inside the ship, it isn't the nuke that destroys the entire ship. It's the nuke reacting with the core and with the energy of the composer that does it. The ship's core explosion would probably be enough to explode most of the ship, and the composer's energy would only increase its size. The nuke just causes the chain reaction that causes the ship to blow up.[/quote] Where was that said?

Just a few thoughts: 1. Cortana is the probably close to as advanced as a Forerunner AI as far as technical abilities. She has been plugged into the most advanced Forerunner databases ever constructed and downloaded a great deal of the contents. Then she had 4 years with nothing to do. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that she could overpower Forerunner technology. 2. The Prometheans are not the best representation of Forerunner technology. The Prometheans were created and equipped by an deranged Forerunner that had been hiding from most of society, so the tech he had access to was probably very limited. He was also prioritizing quantity over quality sense the goal was to give the digitized humans physical forms over giving them the best fighting bodies available. 3. The Didact was not killed by the grenade. He was knocked off of the light bridge and fell into what looked like either a powerful reactor or some sort of slip space portal. I think that it would be pretty ridiculous to make the Forerunners so powerful they just get up and brush themselves off after that. 4. The Didact's ship was not a warship. It is important to remember that he was a prisoner of Requiem. The ship that he had access to is actually pretty small compared to other Forerunner vessels we know of, so with all of that information I conclude that it was probably a personal ship, not designed to heavy military combat. So yes, it may have been sort of easy to destroy, but that's because it was not supposed to take a lot of punishment. It is easy to say that it is too easy to destroy a pleasure yacht with some rifle on board when you compare it to an aircraft carrier.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MHawke7894 Just a few thoughts: 1. Cortana is the probably close to as advanced as a Forerunner AI as far as technical abilities. She has been plugged into the most advanced Forerunner databases ever constructed and downloaded a great deal of the contents. Then she had 4 years with nothing to do. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that she could overpower Forerunner technology. 2. The Prometheans are not the best representation of Forerunner technology. The Prometheans were created and equipped by an deranged Forerunner that had been hiding from most of society, so the tech he had access to was probably very limited. He was also prioritizing quantity over quality sense the goal was to give the digitized humans physical forms over giving them the best fighting bodies available. 3. The Didact was not killed by the grenade. He was knocked off of the light bridge and fell into what looked like either a powerful reactor or some sort of slip space portal. I think that it would be pretty ridiculous to make the Forerunners so powerful they just get up and brush themselves off after that. 4. The Didact's ship was not a warship. It is important to remember that he was a prisoner of Requiem. The ship that he had access to is actually pretty small compared to other Forerunner vessels we know of, so with all of that information I conclude that it was probably a personal ship, not designed to heavy military combat. So yes, it may have been sort of easy to destroy, but that's because it was not supposed to take a lot of punishment. It is easy to say that it is too easy to destroy a pleasure yacht with some rifle on board when you compare it to an aircraft carrier. [/quote] A very good point. However, Cortana was also descending into rampancy at the time and it was shown to have a negative effect on her capabilities, like when she crashes the Lich. Do the effects of rampancy outweigh any potential benefits from the Forerunner database? Unknown. The Prometheans were Didact's last resort against the Flood and at the time he had not been exiled. He decided to digitize the humans because there was no other solution that worked (aside from Halo). It was also shown that he still had support; it was one of his Forerunner soldiers who tells Didact to use the Composer and several times before he had Forerunner soldiers accompanying him. I never said the grenade killed him. Considering Didact's combat skin is much, much more advanced than MJOLNIR, a single grenade seemed a bit pitiful. It was undoubtably the swirling energy thing that killed him. Indeed, it probably wasn't the largest ship. However, it was still very large compared to the Longsword (remember the length of the vehicle run, and when Chief parks his Longsword on it) and it was made of Forerunner alloy. I am skeptical about it not being military because it still had several large cannons on it along with many smaller gun, and because the Composer slotted right into it, like the ship was designed to use the composer. I think we need to know more about the ship before we can come to a solid conclusion.

The entire Halo universe as been falling apart for me since Cryptum, so I didn't really expect anything special out of the Forerunner that appeared in Halo 4. Even still, they did feel pretty weak. I am more disappointed with the lack of attention given to Cortana's rampancy. I really wanted to see more of the different stages, and was hoping even to have her reach some kind of meta-stability. Especially with the theme of the story being that of ascension via cybernetics. Cortana really had the potential to be more the hero than MC in this game... or dare to dream we got a Durandel esque villain out of her. Maybe Halo 5? Were I 343i this is the direction I would take the series as the Didact really seemed forced in for no other reason than to have MC and Cortana go off on another whirl-wind adventure. [Edited on 11.07.2012 4:02 PM PST]

You guys are saying that Didact couldn't kill or get to Cortana right? You do know Didact is a forerunner not an AI?

This is not complete but this is my opinion. -the librarian purposely striped the didact of any advanced tecnology (save the prometheans)so that he coulndt pose a threat to the galaxy, that is why we dont see a single planet destroyer yet in the terminals we see a few human ships destroy an entire world. -the didact is in such a weak state because of the Cryptum effect (we saw the same thing in cryptum when he almost died after getting out of it)and because of getting shot 2 times by the librarian. -and finally the prometheans are underwhelming because they were made to fight the flood and not another advanced spacefaring species like ancient humanity,just picture the prometheans fighting the flood, the crawlers holding againsnt the infection forms, those big ass turrets blowing dozens of flood forms a shot, the knights killing the more envolved forms (combat form, pure form etc...) and the watchers suprting them, they would be perfect, because that's what they were designed for.

-I agree with that, to an extent -He was out for a week or two, he may have regenerated or something a bit. -Then again, you have to consider the fact that when an infection form takes a new host, they (or at least the gravemind) gain the memories of said host, thus making the flood as technologically advanced as their enemy. Against the flood that MC and such faced, Prometheans would destroy them, easily. But against flood with forerunner technology, they would have met their match.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] frgt to link gt Regarding the nuke inside the ship, it isn't the nuke that destroys the entire ship. It's the nuke reacting with the core and with the energy of the composer that does it. The ship's core explosion would probably be enough to explode most of the ship, and the composer's energy would only increase its size. The nuke just causes the chain reaction that causes the ship to blow up.[/quote] Where was that said?[/quote] Getting to the core is the mission.

I think 343i handled it pretty well, seeing as they needed to keep gameplay into account. If the Forerunners were exaggerated to the extent described in Bear's books, it would be a short game indeed. I'd also like to point out that the Knights were much more challenging to fight than the Elites, even if we compare them to Reach's Elites.

I find it strange that in H3 a Keyship can withstand 3 Frigate Mac cannon strikes and a butt load of Longsword missiles, but a Forerunner particle cannon couldn't withstand that bizarre Mammoth mini-mac. I agree though, the Forerunners come over as weak and pathetic. Didact has powers that rival Tartarus in terms of convenience and confusion, whilst his Promethean Knights were utterly pathetic. I honestly think thats why we never see Hunters fight Knights, as even though they are the same size it would be laughably one-sided. Was hoping for more in H4..... the Forerunners really should have had a bit more bite than they did. They just come out seeming to be wimps.

Seig, I agree with every single thing you said! Also I will add, getting rid of Cortana was THE worst way to start the trilogy. Also to stick with the vibe of the first games... master Chief's tenacity and relentless strength in multiple forms need to make every enemy look petty... He's the hero... not the weak hero with flaws and hardships, the badass hero the doesn't flinch, hesitate, or slow down whatsoever when faced by even the mightiest of foes. They needed to keep him as the square jawed super man human tank that they originally intended, where you never even questioned if he'd make it out ok! :)

Bottom line, when Bungie makes another game I willl be the first in line for it.... THEY are the reason the games were great! CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 After playing Halo 4, did the Forerunners come off as weak to anyone else? Cortana is considered an advanced/evolved Ancilla by the Didact, which implies that Forerunner Ancilla aren't that different from Cortana. A single nuke can completely destroy Didact's ship. Forerunner weapons didn't seem all that strong. Didact was much shorter than 15 feet. A single shot from a Mammoth rail gun can destroy massive Forerunner structures. I am not complaining, the campaign was great, but the Forerunners seemed weak after the Forerunner trilogy hyped them up. [/quote] Does he not call Cortana 'devolved'?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 After playing Halo 4, did the Forerunners come off as weak to anyone else? Cortana is considered an advanced/evolved Ancilla by the Didact, which implies that Forerunner Ancilla aren't that different from Cortana. [/quote] All it implies is that the Geas in Halsey were special in comparison to Forerunner AI. [quote] A single nuke can completely destroy Didact's ship. [/quote] If you manage to get right into the centre of it, sure. Outside the shield Cortana said it would literally do nothing. Not to mention humanity's greatest warship carrying essentially super mac weapons punching a small hole into the Didact ship only for it to regenerate itself. [quote] Forerunner weapons didn't seem all that strong. Didact was much shorter than 15 feet. A single shot from a Mammoth rail gun can destroy massive Forerunner structures. [/quote] -Yeah the hand weapons definitely received a nerf. -Yup -Not surprising, Forerunner structures were never seen as invincible, considering how many of them were destroyed. [quote] I am not complaining, the campaign was great, but the Forerunners seemed weak after the Forerunner trilogy hyped them up. [/quote] Only gameplay gave that impression to me.