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glitchmaster117

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10/9/2012 11:56:37 PM
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nobodys-driving-california-governor-signs-legislation-paving-the-way-for-driverless-cars/2012/09/25/d0bc8e10-077f-11e2-9eea-333857f6a7bd_story.html]Here's proof that I'm not joking.[/url] So Flood, would you get one of these things? I think I remember seeing something like this in MIB1 or 2. This may be a bit old too. IDK if it is. [Edited on 10.09.2012 3:57 PM PDT]

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    Bob

    Bob

    10/10/2012 3:37:46 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] karsttheninja99 Driving is fun, why would I want to feel like im in the backseat all over again?[/quote]
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 3:35:33 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 But as you people keep stating "they're the future! and should be mandatory!" you're restricting us and putting those who enjoy something in a cage. All I'm saying is that making something like this mandatory is a retarded idea, and "efficiency" is pointless if something isn't enjoyable., we shouldn't look towards caging people, we should just weed out the idiots by making the tests stricter, and anyone who can't function correctly in said newer restrictions shouldn't have a licence period.[/quote]You don't seem to understand that safety is more important than enjoyment.[/quote] So what you're saying is to not live life to it's fullest, and just live in one space for the rest of your life, just don't go into space because that's dangerous. If it weren't for danger we'd never evolve, we'd never take risks, we'd have never gone to the moon, we'd never have electricity, and we'd never have all this tech because it "isn't safe".[/quote] Unnecessary risks are unnecessary. Maybe you want to put your life at risk every day with something as trivial as driving, and that's fine, but when it puts other people's lives at risk it is unacceptable, when there is an alternative, of course.
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    Mega Blaziken

    Mega Blaziken

    10/10/2012 2:50:31 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 But as you people keep stating "they're the future! and should be mandatory!" you're restricting us and putting those who enjoy something in a cage. All I'm saying is that making something like this mandatory is a retarded idea, and "efficiency" is pointless if something isn't enjoyable., we shouldn't look towards caging people, we should just weed out the idiots by making the tests stricter, and anyone who can't function correctly in said newer restrictions shouldn't have a licence period.[/quote]You don't seem to understand that safety is more important than enjoyment.[/quote] So what you're saying is to not live life to it's fullest, and just live in one space for the rest of your life, just don't go into space because that's dangerous. If it weren't for danger we'd never evolve, we'd never take risks, we'd have never gone to the moon, we'd never have electricity, and we'd never have all this tech because it "isn't safe".
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:46:43 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.[/quote]Holy crap, calm down there. Your skill level at driving is irrelevant; people will always make mistakes. Computers do too, but much, much less. So, no, it isn't complete bull-blam!-, it is the future.[/quote] No I will not calm down, it's not the future, it's a way for lazy -blam!-s to get around with no effort, and impede those who enjoy driving with no destination. I hate the GPS, and I hate when a goddamn computer takes control of something that involves my survival "What's your destination?" -blam!- off computer, I don't have a destination, I just want to drive, and think about stuff.[/quote]Then don't buy an autonomous car.[/quote] But as you people keep stating "they're the future! and should be mandatory!" you're restricting us and putting those who enjoy something in a cage. All I'm saying is that making something like this mandatory is a retarded idea, and "efficiency" is pointless if something isn't enjoyable., we shouldn't look towards caging people, we should just weed out the idiots by making the tests stricter, and anyone who can't function correctly in said newer restrictions shouldn't have a licence period.[/quote]You don't seem to understand that safety is more important than enjoyment.
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    Mega Blaziken

    Mega Blaziken

    10/10/2012 2:45:33 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.[/quote]Holy crap, calm down there. Your skill level at driving is irrelevant; people will always make mistakes. Computers do too, but much, much less. So, no, it isn't complete bull-blam!-, it is the future.[/quote] No I will not calm down, it's not the future, it's a way for lazy -blam!-s to get around with no effort, and impede those who enjoy driving with no destination. I hate the GPS, and I hate when a goddamn computer takes control of something that involves my survival "What's your destination?" -blam!- off computer, I don't have a destination, I just want to drive, and think about stuff.[/quote]Then don't buy an autonomous car.[/quote] But as you people keep stating "they're the future! and should be mandatory!" you're restricting us and putting those who enjoy something in a cage. All I'm saying is that making something like this mandatory is a retarded idea, and "efficiency" is pointless if something isn't enjoyable., we shouldn't look towards caging people, we should just weed out the idiots by making the tests stricter, and anyone who can't function correctly in said newer restrictions shouldn't have a licence period.
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    Mad Max

    Mad Max

    10/10/2012 2:40:01 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.[/quote]Holy crap, calm down there. Your skill level at driving is irrelevant; people will always make mistakes. Computers do too, but much, much less. So, no, it isn't complete bull-blam!-, it is the future.[/quote] No I will not calm down, it's not the future, it's a way for lazy -blam!-s to get around with no effort, and impede those who enjoy driving with no destination. I hate the GPS, and I hate when a goddamn computer takes control of something that involves my survival "What's your destination?" -blam!- off computer, I don't have a destination, I just want to drive, and think about stuff.[/quote]Then don't buy an autonomous car.
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:39:53 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.[/quote]Holy crap, calm down there. Your skill level at driving is irrelevant; people will always make mistakes. Computers do too, but much, much less. So, no, it isn't complete bull-blam!-, it is the future.[/quote] No I will not calm down, it's not the future, it's a way for lazy -blam!-s to get around with no effort, and impede those who enjoy driving with no destination. I hate the GPS, and I hate when a goddamn computer takes control of something that involves my survival "What's your destination?" -blam!- off computer, I don't have a destination, I just want to drive, and think about stuff.[/quote]This isn't a valid argument. Safer roads, faster travel times, and fuel efficiency are more important than your "love of the open road".
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    Mega Blaziken

    Mega Blaziken

    10/10/2012 2:38:00 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.[/quote]Holy crap, calm down there. Your skill level at driving is irrelevant; people will always make mistakes. Computers do too, but much, much less. So, no, it isn't complete bull-blam!-, it is the future.[/quote] No I will not calm down, it's not the future, it's a way for lazy -blam!-s to get around with no effort, and impede those who enjoy driving with no destination. I hate the GPS, and I hate when a goddamn computer takes control of something that involves my survival "What's your destination?" -blam!- off computer, I don't have a destination, I just want to drive, and think about stuff.
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:33:25 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.[/quote]Holy crap, calm down there. Your skill level at driving is irrelevant; people will always make mistakes. Computers do too, but much, much less. So, no, it isn't complete bull-blam!-, it is the future. [Edited on 10.09.2012 6:33 PM PDT]
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    Mega Blaziken

    Mega Blaziken

    10/10/2012 2:31:42 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.[/quote]So don't buy one. They won't be mandatory. Why does everyone in here assume that just because something is available that everyone will be required to get it?[/quote] because as you said they"wont be mandatory for at least a generation" hence implying they WILL become mandatory. and -blam!- that, those who enjoy driving are getting screwed over by people like you saying SELF DRIVING CARS ARE THE FUTURE AND THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY!11!![/quote]They should definitely be allowed once perfected (I assume this is only in a design or prototype stage, I haven't read it yet), but you're right;They shouldn't be mandatory. I personally would prefer one but if you wouldn't I don't see a a real problem with it so long as you're able to drive capably. However, if you can't drive to a safe standard, you can get the -blam!- over it.[/quote]I think that they should be required for everyone eventually. It will make for almost completely safe roads.[/quote] That's complete bull-blam!-, and you know it. Computers mess up, just as bad as the people who program them. and what of us who enjoy driving, and the freedom of the open road... the ones who drive just to drive? Do we have to just accept these bull-blam!- laws just because of a hand full of retards who don't know how to drive? why do we have to lose our freedoms because of idiots who want to sit in a car while it takes you to your destination? that's boring as -blam!- for those who enjoy driving like me.
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:26:27 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer 1. For example let's say I'm in my self driving car and the it won't brake what do I do? If I was in one of today's cars I could safely avoid that situation. 2.If there is a central system and some how that system has an error what happens? 3.Some people can't afford to take their cars to a mechanic so they have no choice to fix them themselves. Also mechanics make mistakes too. 4.If they want in they'll get in.[/quote]1: A normal car's breaks could give out too. 2: There would be countless failsafes to ensure that that wouldn't happen, and if it did get that bad, I'm sure that there would be even more local failsafes. 3: People can still screw up with fixing cars themselves now. It wouldn't make any difference. 4: Again, there are ways to stop hackers.[/quote]1. Yes but my point was if I was in one of today's cars I could control my car and find a safe way to stop. 2. It will eventually fail no matter how many failsafes, something will go wrong and cause it to crash. 3. Except that when it goes wrong nobody has any control. 4.Again yes there are ways to stop them by if they want in they'll get in.[/quote]All that really matters is that there will be a very significant decrease in traffic deaths. You can't expect it to be absolutely perfect.[/quote]Where did I say it be perfect? I said instead of these overcomplicated machines we need to teach people that driving is a privilege. We need stricter laws, test, and training.[/quote]People would never be able to drive as safely and efficiently as machines.
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    Prancer 914

    Prancer 914

    10/10/2012 2:25:41 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer 1. For example let's say I'm in my self driving car and the it won't brake what do I do? If I was in one of today's cars I could safely avoid that situation. 2.If there is a central system and some how that system has an error what happens? 3.Some people can't afford to take their cars to a mechanic so they have no choice to fix them themselves. Also mechanics make mistakes too. 4.If they want in they'll get in.[/quote]1: A normal car's breaks could give out too. 2: There would be countless failsafes to ensure that that wouldn't happen, and if it did get that bad, I'm sure that there would be even more local failsafes. 3: People can still screw up with fixing cars themselves now. It wouldn't make any difference. 4: Again, there are ways to stop hackers.[/quote]1. Yes but my point was if I was in one of today's cars I could control my car and find a safe way to stop. 2. It will eventually fail no matter how many failsafes, something will go wrong and cause it to crash. 3. Except that when it goes wrong nobody has any control. 4.Again yes there are ways to stop them by if they want in they'll get in.[/quote]All that really matters is that there will be a very significant decrease in traffic deaths. You can't expect it to be absolutely perfect.[/quote]Where did I say it be perfect? I said instead of these overcomplicated machines we need to teach people that driving is a privilege. We need stricter laws, test, and training.
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:23:27 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer 1. For example let's say I'm in my self driving car and the it won't brake what do I do? If I was in one of today's cars I could safely avoid that situation. 2.If there is a central system and some how that system has an error what happens? 3.Some people can't afford to take their cars to a mechanic so they have no choice to fix them themselves. Also mechanics make mistakes too. 4.If they want in they'll get in.[/quote]1: A normal car's breaks could give out too. 2: There would be countless failsafes to ensure that that wouldn't happen, and if it did get that bad, I'm sure that there would be even more local failsafes. 3: People can still screw up with fixing cars themselves now. It wouldn't make any difference. 4: Again, there are ways to stop hackers.[/quote]1. Yes but my point was if I was in one of today's cars I could control my car and find a safe way to stop. 2. It will eventually fail no matter how many failsafes, something will go wrong and cause it to crash. 3. Except that when it goes wrong nobody has any control. 4.Again yes there are ways to stop them by if they want in they'll get in.[/quote]All that really matters is that there will be a very significant decrease in traffic deaths. You can't expect it to be absolutely perfect.
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    Prancer 914

    Prancer 914

    10/10/2012 2:20:58 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] RC5908 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer 1. For example let's say I'm in my self driving car and the it won't brake what do I do? If I was in one of today's cars I could safely avoid that situation. 2.If there is a central system and some how that system has an error what happens? 3.Some people can't afford to take their cars to a mechanic so they have no choice to fix them themselves. Also mechanics make mistakes too. 4.If they want in they'll get in.[/quote]1: A normal car's breaks could give out too. 2: There would be countless failsafes to ensure that that wouldn't happen, and if it did get that bad, I'm sure that there would be even more local failsafes. 3: People can still screw up with fixing cars themselves now. It wouldn't make any difference. 4: Again, there are ways to stop hackers.[/quote]1. Yes but my point was if I was in one of today's cars I could control my car and find a safe way to stop. 2. It will eventually fail no matter how many failsafes, something will go wrong and cause it to crash. 3. Except that when it goes wrong nobody has any control. 4.Again yes there are ways to stop them by if they want in they'll get in. As I said before if you want safer drivers train them better. We need to teach people that driving is a privilege not a right. We need to have stricter driving test, and better training. [Edited on 10.09.2012 6:22 PM PDT]
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:20:07 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.[/quote]So don't buy one. They won't be mandatory. Why does everyone in here assume that just because something is available that everyone will be required to get it?[/quote] because as you said they"wont be mandatory for at least a generation" hence implying they WILL become mandatory. and -blam!- that, those who enjoy driving are getting screwed over by people like you saying SELF DRIVING CARS ARE THE FUTURE AND THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY!11!![/quote]They should definitely be allowed once perfected (I assume this is only in a design or prototype stage, I haven't read it yet), but you're right;They shouldn't be mandatory. I personally would prefer one but if you wouldn't I don't see a a real problem with it so long as you're able to drive capably. However, if you can't drive to a safe standard, you can get the -blam!- over it.[/quote]I think that they should be required for everyone eventually. It will make for almost completely safe roads.
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    Ambrosius

    Ambrosius

    10/10/2012 2:17:32 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.[/quote]So don't buy one. They won't be mandatory. Why does everyone in here assume that just because something is available that everyone will be required to get it?[/quote] because as you said they"wont be mandatory for at least a generation" hence implying they WILL become mandatory. and -blam!- that, those who enjoy driving are getting screwed over by people like you saying SELF DRIVING CARS ARE THE FUTURE AND THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY!11!![/quote]They should definitely be allowed once perfected (I assume this is only in a design or prototype stage, I haven't read it yet), but you're right;They shouldn't be mandatory. I personally would prefer one but if you wouldn't I don't see a a real problem with it so long as you're able to drive capably. However, if you can't drive to a safe standard, you can get the -blam!- over it.
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    RC5908

    RC5908

    10/10/2012 2:10:59 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ulquiorra Cifer 1. For example let's say I'm in my self driving car and the it won't brake what do I do? If I was in one of today's cars I could safely avoid that situation. 2.If there is a central system and some how that system has an error what happens? 3.Some people can't afford to take their cars to a mechanic so they have no choice to fix them themselves. Also mechanics make mistakes too. 4.If they want in they'll get in.[/quote]1: A normal car's breaks could give out too. 2: There would be countless failsafes to ensure that that wouldn't happen, and if it did get that bad, I'm sure that there would be even more local failsafes. 3: People can still screw up with fixing cars themselves now. It wouldn't make any difference. 4: Again, there are ways to stop hackers.
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    Ambrosius

    Ambrosius

    10/10/2012 2:10:49 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 Hopefully, we can eliminate the human error that is the cause of most of our driving problems. [/quote]That was my thought as well.
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    MyNameIsCharlie

    MyNameIsCharlie

    10/10/2012 2:09:34 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.[/quote]So don't buy one. They won't be mandatory. Why does everyone in here assume that just because something is available that everyone will be required to get it?[/quote] because as you said they"wont be mandatory for at least a generation" hence implying they WILL become mandatory. and -blam!- that, those who enjoy driving are getting screwed over by people like you saying SELF DRIVING CARS ARE THE FUTURE AND THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY!11!![/quote]DEEERRP! DEY TOO MAH JEWB!
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    Mega Blaziken

    Mega Blaziken

    10/10/2012 2:08:31 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.[/quote]So don't buy one. They won't be mandatory. Why does everyone in here assume that just because something is available that everyone will be required to get it?[/quote] because as you said they"wont be mandatory for at least a generation" hence implying they WILL become mandatory. and -blam!- that, those who enjoy driving are getting screwed over by people like you saying SELF DRIVING CARS ARE THE FUTURE AND THEY SHOULD BE MANDATORY!11!!
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    MyNameIsCharlie

    MyNameIsCharlie

    10/10/2012 2:03:39 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DaViDlIkEsPiE2 NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.[/quote]So don't buy one. They won't be mandatory. Why does everyone in here assume that just because something is available that everyone will be required to get it?
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    Mega Blaziken

    Mega Blaziken

    10/10/2012 2:02:24 AM Permalink
    NO, who seriously likes just sitting there while you travel, I for one actually enjoy driving and this stupid self-driving car stuff can -blam!- off.
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    MyNameIsCharlie

    MyNameIsCharlie

    10/10/2012 2:01:25 AM Permalink
    I don't see why people have a problem with this. It wouldn't be mandatory for at least a generation, it will save fuel and lower the number of accidents. On top of all that, its a new market that can only help the economy. This really is a no brainer.
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    BlackHeaven

    BlackHeaven

    10/10/2012 1:59:12 AM Permalink
    [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 I made a big thread about this a couple weeks ago. It was great discussion. Yes, I would get one. Hopefully, we can eliminate the human error that is the cause of most of our driving problems. [/quote] Yes.
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