[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UnveiledArk PLEASE NO BASHING![/quote]Then what is there to talk about?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior you happy, burrito? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UnveiledArk PLEASE NO BASHING![/quote]Then what is there to talk about?[/quote]srsly burrito? [Edited on 09.26.2012 9:07 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UnveiledArk PLEASE NO BASHING![/quote]Then what is there to talk about?[/quote]*Rimshot* ...The point is that they're a young community and they have yet to establish some sense of hiearchy or order. It may very well someday become a pretty cool place to post, but it's definitely not there yet.

Lets see: cons: - Terrible UI - Ugly forums - rude people - uses xbox.com - extremely laggy pros: . . . They need to fire the middle school site designer and hire someone who knows how to code and a graphic designer to make a better user interface. Also they need to invest in more servers.

i went to their forums twice couldnt figure out what to do and left. i only use bnet forums because they are easy to get around and they are easy on the eyes yorkie

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mvyorkie009 i went to their forums twice couldnt figure out what to do and left. i only use bnet forums because they are easy to get around and they are easy on the eyes yorkie[/quote] Their forums are painful to use. Many people I have talked to have only played Reach as their first (and only) Halo. Not a big deal, but they then say they want Halo to emulate cod. By 343i adding perks/etc to Halo 4, they are praising 343i for making innovations done by every other generic shooter. The forums are extremely slow and bloated. The moderation there is equivalent to soviet Russia where you literally can be banned for going against the main opinion. I have had many threads deleted, locked, or merged.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] UnveiledArk srsly burrito?[/quote]srsly Unveiled.

Im not a fan. I gave them an honest and fair shot when they came out. Posted a bunch in fact. Then i stopped using it. Went back recently to try again. Still wasn't a fan. I dont like the set up. I dont like the community.

It feels like a cheap knockoff of our forums.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EAGLES5 I dont like the community.[/quote]Bingo. So the other day I made a thread there. I ask them... I ask, 'Why shouldn't I cancel my Halo 4 LE preorder?' You know, because of the whole controversy with the season pass getting you not only the same stuff except for a case and the 'specializations' for five dollars cheaper, but also adds in armor permutations the LE DOESN'T have (which 343 implied they would charge for separate purchase later). I could get all the same content except a case and specializations for $15 cheaper if I cancel my preorder and go with the Standard and the pass. Knowing the community is immature, I deliberately put in multiple times 'I have no yet decided and I WANT to be convinced to keep it.' And behold the replies nonetheless: Tons of 'WHY ARE YOU POSTING THIS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ATTENTION GO AWAY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU YOU'RE JUST ONE PERSON STFU' posts. Their community is immature and their moderation is horrid. The moderators don't know how to moderate. They make Qbix look like Duardo. (:P) In addition? I can't even type. I type so fast their textbox can't keep up with me. So every five words I have to STOP typing just so the text can catch up to me. It's ridiculous. Add that to how the website in general is slow and page loading is hit or miss? The waypoint forums are no good. Not at all. [Edited on 09.26.2012 9:26 AM PDT]

Bungie foar lyfe

A lot of the community seem to piss me off for some reason. I don't particularly like the site's layout either, although maybe I'm just too used to Bungie.net. EDIT: Oh, the moderators too. I've never been personally banned (probably due to having less than 100 posts on the site), but a lot of them seem to ban for ridiculous reasons. [Edited on 09.26.2012 9:31 AM PDT]

Lolpoint Slowpoint Crashpoint Kidpoint Powerhappymoderatorpoint That just about sums it up.

Because it reminds me of the Halo 3 forum circa 2008. Sure you might find a "gem" of a thread here and there but its mostly bad. Also I hate the layout and it takes forever to load on my computer for whatever reason.

I don't like the community, and the website is extremely slow/laggy, and as someone said before, page loading is a hit or miss.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 - uses xbox.com [/quote] So that's why its always bugging the -blam!- out. Yes, that is bad indeed. On a side note is it just me who is getting auto-signed out of xbox.com and that the halo waypoint blog don't load?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EAGLES5 I dont like the community.[/quote] You do realize that much of that community is comprised of current and former members of this community, right? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kivell Because it reminds me of the Halo 3 forum circa 2008. [/quote] DING! [Edited on 09.26.2012 9:42 AM PDT]

The website is poorly designed and barely functional. I haven't stayed long enough to judge the community that uses it.

It's a piece of -blam!-. Ditto for its community.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 Their forums are painful to use. Many people I have talked to have only played Reach as their first (and only) Halo. Not a big deal, but they then say they want Halo to emulate cod. By 343i adding perks/etc to Halo 4, they are praising 343i for making innovations done by every other generic shooter. The forums are extremely slow and bloated. The moderation there is equivalent to soviet Russia where you literally can be banned for going against the main opinion. I have had many threads deleted, locked, or merged. [/quote] ^ This. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] burritosenior Bingo. So the other day I made a thread there. I ask them... I ask, 'Why shouldn't I cancel my Halo 4 LE preorder?' You know, because of the whole controversy with the season pass getting you not only the same stuff except for a case and the 'specializations' for five dollars cheaper, but also adds in armor permutations the LE DOESN'T have (which 343 implied they would charge for separate purchase later). I could get all the same content except a case and specializations for $15 cheaper if I cancel my preorder and go with the Standard and the pass. Knowing the community is immature, I deliberately put in multiple times 'I have no yet decided and I WANT to be convinced to keep it.' And behold the replies nonetheless: Tons of 'WHY ARE YOU POSTING THIS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ATTENTION GO AWAY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU YOU'RE JUST ONE PERSON STFU' posts. Their community is immature and their moderation is horrid. The moderators don't know how to moderate. They make Qbix look like Duardo. (:P) In addition? I can't even type. I type so fast their textbox can't keep up with me. So every five words I have to STOP typing just so the text can catch up to me. It's ridiculous. Add that to how the website in general is slow and page loading is hit or miss? The waypoint forums are no good. Not at all.[/quote] ^ Also this. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EAGLES5 Im not a fan. I gave them an honest and fair shot when they came out. Posted a bunch in fact. Then i stopped using it. Went back recently to try again. Still wasn't a fan. I dont like the set up. I dont like the community.[/quote] ^ And this yet again. To sum up what was said in one of the posts I quoted, they will literally ban you for most anything. I include here my last message sent to Waypoint "Mod" staff disputing my latest ban. [quote]I disagree with the nature and reasoning of this ban. What I said in my Forum post is not flaming. Nor did I bypass any of the filters or other security measure of the site or Forums. I expressed my opinion (in an admittedly heated manner), and told him that he needs to provide proof for making such a claim. Yes, in my opinion he was being extraordinarily arrogant in his assessment. Just because I called him a name, [b]which was edited out by the censorship filters,[/b] is not flaming. Because I called him arrogant, when his post was laced with arrogance, is not flaming. It's called taking someone to task for their words/actions. you make a claim, you need to provide proof. Simple. Are we really that afraid of people getting butt-hurt over words? Are we really so scared that someone's feelings might get hurt? I will constantly disagree with your description of this post being flaming. YEs I called him a name, but I backed it up with discussion points and called him out to provide proof of his claims. That's driving discussion, and what was already a heated discussion at that. Had I just called him the name and told him that he was being a stupid-head, then that would qualify as flaming. But we're adults, we're not five. We don't need to have oppressively vague definitions of what is or is not rule-breaking in order to keep our precious kindergarten-level feelings from getting hurt. Nor do we need rules so vague that most any post could qualify as any infraction,which is where 343's rules currently sit at. But you guys have your little -blam!--fun party here. I don't forsee myself visiting these Forums again. I'll only be here for stats. Even then I won't look at that very often as this site is vastly inferior to... every other website. Even fan-run Halo site are operated better than this abortion of a site. So have fun on your fail of a site with your autocratic, fascist, abnormally vague rules. [/quote] [Edited on 09.26.2012 9:55 AM PDT]

Wait... what's this about the LE? You get more stuff with the standard edition? I haven't followed that aspect of the release since I pre-ordered the LE months ago.

My opinion is the same as what's been stated so far. Horrible Website. Horrible Community. Horrible Moderators.

Here's a short video about people's feelings on Waypoint. Warning, Language! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IgjXkSoPM[/url] [Edited on 09.26.2012 10:00 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cobravert [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] EAGLES5 I dont like the community.[/quote] You do realize that much of that community is comprised of current and former members of this community, right? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Kivell Because it reminds me of the Halo 3 forum circa 2008. [/quote] DING![/quote] It's almost a good thing Bungie left Halo to make something amazingly original that will take up too much of my life...Scratch that, it IS a good thing, and there's no such thing as "too much" when it comes to a Bungie game!

*Tries really hard not to bash* I am not a huge fan of the website, or, if I am to be frank, 343i in general. The website is laggy and slow, although I cannot speak to the character of the community. It feels as though it has usurped a dying empire while Bungie has gone on to the new world, broken the chains of despotic oppression, and founded a new nation built upon the principles that make our nati- *ahem* community great.

Well this has blossomed into a wonderfully constructive thread.