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9/8/2012 9:31:32 PM
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Thoughts on improving the quality of posting and general content

It's common knowledge that the quality of posting on the Bungie.net forums, especially while Bungie is dark, is sometimes lacking. This isn't surprising; this community features an extremely wide range of ages, so the content of what we post should be expected to vary dramatically. With that being said, I like to think that with age comes some wisdom. There currently is nothing in place that records a user's literal age, and for privacy reasons it should remain that way. Luckily for us, there already exists a system that (theoretically) tracks one's time and general behavior on Bungie.net: forum titles. If we assume that the older members of this site are the most wise, and they generally are, then it can further be determined that, given the forum title system, said members are already designated as such in the public forums. The Mythic Members. Unfortunately, a common trend I can personally attest to witnessing is the migration of older members into private groups. While I wont state my own opinion, many Mythic Members seem to feel that, as older members of the site, more is expected of them. Because of this, the rules are enforced more harshly upon them. There's essentially a target on the backs of our top tier of members. The fix I'm proposing is that regulation be loosened for those members who obtain Mythic status. Mythic Members are inarguably the content creators on these forums. Even when a user of a lesser title group manages to create a quality thread/post, especially here in the Septagon, it's usually a rehash or direct reference to an older thread, most likely created by a user that is now mythic. Mythics essentially enable younger and less experienced users to create quality posts. In fact, it may be more beneficial to cut down on nonsense and enforce moderation on non-Mythic Members even more rigidly, so they have only the example of Mythic posting to influence their own habits. By loosening the reigns on the blue bars and knuckling down on non-Mythics, the quality of posts Mythic Members create will trickle down and influence the legendary, heroic, and ordinary members of this site, benefiting all. Mythics are the content creators, so they should be free to do so for the greater good.

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  • No, so.. "We feel we are being treated unfairly so treat us better than everyone else" It's like swapping out discrimination for discrimination.

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  • So what you're saying is that Mythic Members are moderated harshly while non Mythics aren't? I don't agree with that, I never see a Mythic Member get into trouble yet I can't seem to stay out of it, even when I was Legendary. [Edited on 09.08.2012 1:39 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 I never see a Mythic Member get into trouble[/quote]There are legions of [i]former[/i]-Mythics that would say otherwise. Also, if you really can't stay out of trouble, perhaps a bit of Mythic guidance would help. [Edited on 09.08.2012 1:42 PM PDT]

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  • I've never been a Mythic Member so I wouldn't know, but most Mythic members I do see never get banned. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 There are legions of [i]former[/i]-Mythics that would say otherwise. [/quote]

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  • So.. to promote discussions, the mods should bend the rules in our favor. I'm okay with it. However I don't exactly know of any topic that we aren't allowed to post that would also revive this forum if we were suddenly granted permission to discuss.

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  • Why isn't primo a mod? Every thread he posts is genius. [i]This is the single greatest idea for moderation this forum has seen in over a generation.[/i]

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  • We need moar dragons. #dragons2012

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 I've never been a Mythic Member so I wouldn't know, but most Mythic members I do see never get banned. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 There are legions of [i]former[/i]-Mythics that would say otherwise. [/quote][/quote] If Mythic members never get banned, why aren't all Mythics Exalted?

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  • This is why I support the Blue Hat Party. We don't want to have Achronos bail out Mythix again. Play Nice was a direct result of a lack of Mythic intervention. [Edited on 09.08.2012 2:03 PM PDT]

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  • I don't see mythics get banned that often, and when they do they deserve it. When they are banned, just a few months later they jump back to Mythic anyway. Most Mythics are actually normal human beings but there are the odd few who let them selfs down making all the mythics look bad. All it takes is one bad sheep.

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  • I find it outlandish that anyone would oppose this

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 I don't see mythics get banned that often[/quote]Arbitor, meet Delta. (Above) Delta is one of many countless victims of the current administration's undeclared war on B.net's top percent. [Edited on 09.08.2012 2:10 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 I don't see mythics get banned that often[/quote]Arbitor, meet Delta. (Above) Delta is one of many countless victims of the current administration's undeclared war on B.net's top percent. [/quote]Haha, yes i've seen delta in black and blue. I'm sure that when he was banned he deserved it, if not then pick it up with the Ninjas. I have never been banned because I obey by the rules.. execpt back in 2010 when I was warned twice for posting threads in the wrong forums but to be fair I was new to posting at the time.

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  • Doesn't mean they were never banned before they became Mythic. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 If Mythic members never get banned, why aren't all Mythics Exalted? [/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 Doesn't mean they were never banned before they became Mythic. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Xd00999 If Mythic members never get banned, why aren't all Mythics Exalted? [/quote][/quote] As Primo said, look at Delta. Or Helveck. Plenty Mythics have lost their blue.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 I don't see mythics get banned that often[/quote]Arbitor, meet Delta. (Above) Delta is one of many countless victims of the current administration's undeclared war on B.net's top percent. [/quote] You only need look at my case. They had someone hide in the shadows, silently observing and waiting. What are the actual odds that Sir Fragula would have been online otherwise? Conspiracy, bro. [Edited on 09.08.2012 2:38 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] deltahalo UK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 I don't see mythics get banned that often[/quote]Arbitor, meet Delta. (Above) Delta is one of many countless victims of the current administration's undeclared war on B.net's top percent. [/quote] You only need look at my case. They had someone hide in the shadows, silently observing and waiting. What are the actual odds that Sir Fragula would have been online otherwise? Conspiracy, bro.[/quote]...wait a second. [b]My[/b] last ban was issued by Sir Fragula! It [i]is[/i] a conspiracy! [Edited on 09.08.2012 2:40 PM PDT]

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  • This thread holds no discussion value for anyone without a blue bar.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MsCadetUNIVERSE This thread holds no discussion value for anyone without a blue bar.[/quote] I don't have a blue bar Get with the programme

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  • It's a never-ending cycle, isn't it? There isn't as many posts because many people have left since Bungie isnt Halo anymore. This is expected. Once the new game is released, more people will come. Trying to fill the forums with threads for the sake of activity won't help anyone. Be patient Mythics, your beloved B.net will eventually return to good activity, and then you can start feeling good again.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] deltahalo UK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 I don't see mythics get banned that often[/quote]Arbitor, meet Delta. (Above) Delta is one of many countless victims of the current administration's undeclared war on B.net's top percent. [/quote] You only need look at my case. They had someone hide in the shadows, silently observing and waiting. What are the actual odds that Sir Fragula would have been online otherwise? Conspiracy, bro.[/quote]...wait a second. [b]My[/b] last ban was issued by Sir Fragula! It [i]is[/i] a conspiracy![/quote]Haha, okay. I'll be extra careful my self now then. Thanks for the tip ;)

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  • lol!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 While I wont state my own opinion, many Mythic Members seem to feel that, as older members of the site, more is expected of them.[/quote]Wat? [Edited on 09.08.2012 3:29 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] deltahalo UK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MsCadetUNIVERSE This thread holds no discussion value for anyone who has never had a blue bar.[/quote] I don't have a blue bar Get with the programme[/quote]Fixed it to better prove the point.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara444 I never see a Mythic Member get into trouble[/quote] I got a warning for going around the swear filter yet I see people get away with it constantly. I don't blame the ninjas they're just doing their jobs but being mythic does sort of make you a target. I try not to break the rules now.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 By loosening the reigns on the blue bars and knuckling down on non-Mythics, the quality of posts Mythic Members create will trickle down and influence the legendary, heroic, and ordinary members of this site, benefiting all. Mythics are the content creators, so they should be free to do so for the greater good. [/quote]Trickle-down doesn't work, and the upper class doesn't create content, demand creates content. See what I did there? But seriously, I have never tried to reach the post quality of mythics when I was a younger member because some of them are total dolts. I'm more likely to make a quality post if people want to discuss the areas I'm happier to discuss. Sadly, those areas aren't allowed in the public forums. :( [Edited on 09.08.2012 4:24 PM PDT]

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