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Who could possibly support abortion after watching this video...

[url=http://www.abort73.com/videos/this_is_abortion/] WARNING VIDEO IS GRAPHIC[/url] I will be honest flood I started crying 2 minutes into this video. please watch this video. See what they are doing. Stop standing back and allowing genocide! Abortion take out the b ad a d and replace the r with p and you get. Adoption. Please everyone voice your respective opinions on the subject. I honestly cannot see any reason what so ever to support abortion. There is literally know logical argument. Moral, civil, or ethically. [Edited on 08.12.2012 10:12 AM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] divine thunder14 I've already learned about abortion in one of my classes at highschool. It is a shame how abortion is legal with such practices that cause a lot of pain for the child. Literally, who would support ripping a child apart, limb by limb, all in the name of "rights"?[/quote] Supporting abortion rights is not supporting abortion itself. [/quote] By that logic supporting pedophle rights is not the same as being a pedophle.

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  • Yes, I am for abortion. Yes, I watched the video in its entirety. Yet, I am still for abortion. I have to give the women's choice leverage. If she feels she cannot raise a child to the best of her abilities, I would rather that child go through whatever amount of pain during it's development, as opposed to growing up in dirty conditions, bouncing through foster care, or ending up on the streets.

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  • Why?

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  • Abortion is legal in the United States?

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  • If it's the mothers decision then yes.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oly Lifter [i]The fetus does not qualify as life[/i] But the fetus is alive. [i]The fetus is not self aware, therefore it is not human[/i] By that logic a person in a coma is not human. [i]It is a right for a woman to have control over her body, and it is her child[/i] The woman is sharing her vessel with another human, regardless of how this happened. And "it is her child" as an excuse is the most illogical thing I have ever heard. As if being a mother gives you the right to take your child's life.[/quote] [quote]Member Since: 08.12.2012[/quote] You is OP

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  • i can. *dons devil mask and nurse outfit* DIE HELPLESS CHILDREN; DIE!!!

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  • [i]The fetus does not qualify as life[/i] But the fetus is alive. [i]The fetus is not self aware, therefore it is not human[/i] By that logic a person in a coma is not human. [i]It is a right for a woman to have control over her body, and it is her child[/i] The woman is sharing her vessel with another human, regardless of how this happened. And "it is her child" as an excuse is the most illogical thing I have ever heard. As if being a mother gives you the right to take your child's life.

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  • I really couldn't care less.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] annoyinginge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx I'm not the OP. I was trying to defend something. I was not trying to sway opinions.[/quote] Yes, you were. That is entirely non-debatable.[/quote] I was not attacking anyone else. I was defending something. I got in an argument wit valid reason. I was not trying to sway the other persons opinion. The argument is resolved now. We not know that the video is not a tool for argument. It is a tool for supporting but is very poorly made. There are many other videos out there that are meant for this kind of argument. Lets just let the arguments stop for now. I need a break. [Edited on 08.12.2012 11:23 AM PDT]

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  • [url=http://meatspin.com/]Believe in J.C [i]He[/i] will return[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FatM I support abortion, but only to an extent. I don't think a woman should have the right to kill her unborn baby when it's 7-8 months developed. I think that's a reasonable stance. People should just use their brains when it comes to things like this.[/quote] This. After the brain has developed and the child has gained actual consciousness, however primitive, abortion shouldn't be an option. If you're going to do it, don't -blam!-foot around the bush for months.

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  • I find it ironic that, as a species, we place greater sanctity on the life of an animal than we do on our own unborn.

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  • The video is graphic and emotionally moving. That's what cautions me, though. The video is targeting my emotions with a shock factor, instead of my logic or reasoning. [Edited on 08.12.2012 11:21 AM PDT]

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  • [url=http://meatspin.com/]Believe in J.C[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] annoyinginge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WinyPit82 All life has consciousness. How [i]much[/i] it has can greatly vary. [/quote] Nope.avi Bacteria are in no way conscious.[/quote] That is very much so debatable.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx I'm not the OP. I was trying to defend something. I was not trying to sway opinions.[/quote] Yes, you were. That is entirely non-debatable.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WinyPit82 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx Well the point of the video was not to argue. It was on a pro-life site and was not meant to be a tool for debate. There are plenty of videos that will do that already.[/quote] Obviously, you were trying to convince us that abortion was immoral in this thread. You wanted us one your side, and you showed us propaganda to do it. Not a good method, just remember that for future reference. [/quote] I'm not the OP. I was trying to defend something. I was not trying to sway opinions.[/quote] Ah, right, kind of forgot you didn't post this thread. Sorry about that. My points still stand. [Edited on 08.12.2012 11:20 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] annoyinginge [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WinyPit82 All life has consciousness. How [i]much[/i] it has can greatly vary. [/quote] Nope.avi Bacteria are in no way conscious.[/quote] [url=http://meatspin.com/]Believe in J.C[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WinyPit82 All life has consciousness. How [i]much[/i] it has can greatly vary. [/quote] Nope.avi Bacteria are in no way conscious.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WinyPit82 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx Well the point of the video was not to argue. It was on a pro-life site and was not meant to be a tool for debate. There are plenty of videos that will do that already.[/quote] Obviously, you were trying to convince us that abortion was immoral in this thread. You wanted us one your side, and you showed us propaganda to do it. Not a good method, just remember that for future reference. [/quote] I'm not the OP. I was trying to defend something. I was not trying to sway opinions. [Edited on 08.12.2012 11:18 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt pepper200 carpet ban incoming![/quote] Carpet ban? What rules were broken?

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  • Mods, if you see this, I am leaving this thread. Please lock it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx Well the point of the video was not to argue. It was on a pro-life site and was not meant to be a tool for debate. There are plenty of videos that will do that already.[/quote] Obviously, you were trying to convince us that abortion was immoral in this thread. You wanted us one your side, and you showed us propaganda to do it. Not a good method, just remember that for future reference.

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  • carpet ban incoming!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WinyPit82 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] War Sphinx The purpose of the video was not to argue with another opinion. It was to support its own opinion and was meant for both pro-life and pro-choice viewers. Any opinion with an opposing opinion can be considered biased. It's not a good video. Even if it is a bad, I doubt it was made with much of a budget. The point of the video was to show something and present a point. Not argue another.[/quote] It didn't present a point, though. I've told you before, this is just propaganda. Propaganda is not an intelligent way to persuade intelligent people. Intelligent people see through propaganda, they want to see facts, good arguments, and rationality. None of those things are in this video. [/quote] Well the point of the video was not to argue. It was on a pro-life site and was not meant to be a tool for debate. There are plenty of videos that will do that already. It was not a good video but it did have a point. It wasn't a very good point though. It was to convey that abortion is a disgusting mess of children's remains. [Edited on 08.12.2012 11:14 AM PDT]

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