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4/18/2012 2:37:24 PM
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US Troops Pose With Mangled Suicide Bombers
[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-afghan-photos-20120418,0,6471010,full.story]Article[/url].
So, is this better or worse than when they pissed on dead terrorists?
And does the soldier in the top picture having a missing hand or am I just blind? If so, how can he be serving?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XSEAN 115 Sigh this is the type of -blam!- that make people hate me and my job. I am a soldier and this is not helping showing the public that we are honored men. [/quote] Sean, I'm genuinely interested to know this, do you come accross lots of people like Colby that think that the Afghan's are sub-human?[/quote] Ha, hahaha, this kid actually thinks I think they are sub-human just because we are a better nation (by far). How moronic can you get?[/quote] To be honest, I don't think you can get any more moronic than a racist soldier who thinks that his peoples are superior to anothers.[/quote] Tell me. If you had two football teams that were planning to go play each other. Team one and let's call the other team "Team two". Now , team one beats team two by fifty points. You can honestly say that team one is a better team because , guess what, THEY HAVE BETTER PLAYERS! You need to learn how to grasp analogies.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]What do you do if you are facing an enemy who refuses to look at the world from any perspective but their own?[/quote] Get them to understand where you're coming from. It's not like you have a choice. Until you find a way to put a bullet in the head of an ideology, you will have to settle those differences with compromise.[/quote]And if they do not want to compromise?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 Gasp! Was I born in Afghanistan? I'm not racist at all, how is stating facts racist you moron?[/quote] So, you believe that you & your peoples race/society are superior to another? Sure as hell sounds like racism to me. "a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others." P.s. A "race" can be a culture, colour, society etc.[/quote] Considering the US is a mixture of every culture, colour, society , etc out there, how am I being races to say the US is better than another country?[/quote] That's not what you said, this is what you said" Hmmm, how are we not superior" in reply to "Haha, so you actually believe that US civilians are superior to Afghan civilians?" You're nothing more than a Racist.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]What do you do if you are facing an enemy who refuses to look at the world from any perspective but their own?[/quote]Because if you claim to be the morally superior nation that is supposed to be bring freedom, democracy, and civilization to these people you damn well better show it[/quote]The way you answered my question is inconsistent with the question I asked you...
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I don't mind this one bit.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XSEAN 115 Sigh this is the type of -blam!- that make people hate me and my job. I am a soldier and this is not helping showing the public that we are honored men. [/quote] Sean, I'm genuinely interested to know this, do you come accross lots of people like Colby that think that the Afghan's are sub-human?[/quote] Ha, hahaha, this kid actually thinks I think they are sub-human just because we are a better nation (by far). How moronic can you get?[/quote] To be honest, I don't think you can get any more moronic than a racist soldier who thinks that his peoples are superior to anothers.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 Gasp! Was I born in Afghanistan? I'm not racist at all, how is stating facts racist you moron?[/quote] So, you believe that you & your peoples race/society are superior to another? Sure as hell sounds like racism to me. "a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others." P.s. A "race" can be a culture, colour, society etc.[/quote] Considering the US is a mixture of every culture, colour, society , etc out there, how am I being racist to say the US is better than another country? [Edited on 04.18.2012 3:57 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]What do you do if you are facing an enemy who refuses to look at the world from any perspective but their own?[/quote] Get them to understand where you're coming from. It's not like you have a choice. Until you find a way to put a bullet in the head of an ideology, you will have to settle those differences with compromise.
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That's horribly disrespectful.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 None of that proves anything about me being "brainwashed". It's my personal opinion and many others share different opinions, now keep trying to convince yourself that we are brainwashed, it won't get you far.[/quote] Haha, so you actually believe that US civilians are superior to Afghan civilians? I certainly see why America is losing the war in Afghanistan now, especially if the Army is full of people like you.[/quote] Hmmm, how are we not superior? Do you see: - Their technology level - Their Economies level - Their country in general - Their education system - Their health care - Their clothing - Their homes - their military - Their contributions to society [/quote] How can you even begin to claim to not be brainwashed after making such a statement? LOL. Let's see here, for one, Afghanistan has been ravaged by civil war/unrest for the last 50-100 years, for two the USSR destroyed Afganistan during the cold war & the US are now doing the same/did the same in 01/02, they also do not sit on massive natural resource reserves like America does/has, they also do not have the same landmass as america, they also are in a very volatile region - america is not. You're a racist, nationalist joke & that has been exposed completely by this post. Also, Locke asked that far better than I ever could, I'd also love an answer to " Do you still think you'd be as "superior" as you are now if you were born in Afghanistan?"[/quote] Gasp! Was I born in Afghanistan? I'm not racist at all, how is stating facts racist you moron?[/quote] U.S citizens being superior to Afghan citizens is not a fact. Actually, you claiming we are proves we aren't. The average U.S citizen is not better or worse than the average Afghan citizen.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XSEAN 115 Sigh this is the type of -blam!- that make people hate me and my job. I am a soldier and this is not helping showing the public that we are honored men. [/quote] Sean, I'm genuinely interested to know this, do you come accross lots of people like Colby that think that the Afghan's are sub-human?[/quote] Ha, hahaha, this kid actually thinks I think they are sub-human just because we are a better nation (by far). How moronic can you get?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe In your own words, it is " grassroots culture of the people installing a leader that reflects the culture, who then oppresses them" This grassroots culture will not be changed by bullets or by puppet leaders, it must be changed by those these grassroots people respect. Yes, elements of the Afghan culture do disgust me i.e. Treatment of women - but that doesn't stop me from being able to empathise with how they feel & how I would feel if I was in their position. [/quote]The end goal of my questioning of you is to show you your cognative dissonance and logical inconsistencies. You cannot say that the Afghani culture disgusts you and then criticize the soldiers for thinking that their culture is barbaric. You cannot say that the real problem with Afghanistan lies deeper than the leaders and rulers and with the culture and then say that we must respect their culture. You are logically contradicting yourself. Your position is not realistic.[/quote] I'm going to repost this since Fails at Life apparently missed it.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 Gasp! Was I born in Afghanistan? I'm not racist at all, how is stating facts racist you moron?[/quote] So, you believe that you & your peoples race/society are superior to another? Sure as hell sounds like racism to me. "a person with a prejudiced belief that one race is superior to others." P.s. A "race" can be a culture, colour, society etc.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] everywhere116 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]What do you do if you are facing an enemy who refuses to look at the world from any perspective but their own?[/quote]Because if you claim to be the morally superior nation that is supposed to be bring freedom, democracy, and civilization to these people you damn well better show it
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe Because if you cannot understand & empathise the reasons in which people join the insurgents, you cannot stop people from joining them.[/quote]That's true. But that's not what I was talking about. I'm talking about supporting this group in any way, shape, or form. This all started because it seems like you were doing just that. If you weren't I apologize, but this is the internet. I can't tell your tone of voice, or anything like that to really understand what you're meaning.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 You guys know , right, that the Roman Empire did the exact same thing that you guys are accusing us of doing . You know, invading a country but you are leaving out the part that we are also modernizing it just like the Romans. Tell me, do you have respect for the Holy Roman Empire?[/quote]Two different empires...[/quote] I didn't mean to include the "holy" part in the last sentence. Sorry for that.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mr _super sauce Some guy who wants to destroy America and tried to kill U.S soldiers died during his attempt, and he gets sympathy? You make me sick, Flood. [/quote]Agreed. But that doesn't excuse this type of behavior. [Edited on 04.18.2012 3:54 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XSEAN 115 Sigh this is the type of -blam!- that make people hate me and my job. I am a soldier and this is not helping showing the public that we are honored men. [/quote] Sean, I'm genuinely interested to know this, do you come accross lots of people like Colby that think that the Afghan's are sub-human?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]What do you do if you are facing an enemy who refuses to look at the world from any perspective but their own?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 None of that proves anything about me being "brainwashed". It's my personal opinion and many others share different opinions, now keep trying to convince yourself that we are brainwashed, it won't get you far.[/quote] Haha, so you actually believe that US civilians are superior to Afghan civilians? I certainly see why America is losing the war in Afghanistan now, especially if the Army is full of people like you.[/quote] Hmmm, how are we not superior? Do you see: - Their technology level - Their Economies level - Their country in general - Their education system - Their health care - Their clothing - Their homes - their military - Their contributions to society [/quote] How can you even begin to claim to not be brainwashed after making such a statement? LOL. Let's see here, for one, Afghanistan has been ravaged by civil war/unrest for the last 50-100 years, for two the USSR destroyed Afganistan during the cold war & the US are now doing the same/did the same in 01/02, they also do not sit on massive natural resource reserves like America does/has, they also do not have the same landmass as america, they also are in a very volatile region - america is not. You're a racist, nationalist joke & that has been exposed completely by this post. Also, Locke asked that far better than I ever could, I'd also love an answer to " Do you still think you'd be as "superior" as you are now if you were born in Afghanistan?"[/quote] Gasp! Was I born in Afghanistan? I'm not racist at all, how is stating facts racist you moron?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]I have. The Taliban's goals, and methods, are not something I agree with. Why would I continue to look at what they want to accomplish? [/quote] Because if you cannot understand & empathise the reasons in which people join the insurgents, you cannot stop people from joining them.
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Sigh this is the type of -blam!- that make people hate me and my job. I am a soldier and this is not helping showing the public that we are honored men.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 You guys know , right, that the Roman Empire did the exact same thing that you guys are accusing us of doing . You know, invading a country but you are leaving out the part that we are also modernizing it just like the Romans. Tell me, do you have respect for the Holy Roman Empire?[/quote]Two different empires...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] colbyrules8 None of that proves anything about me being "brainwashed". It's my personal opinion and many others share different opinions, now keep trying to convince yourself that we are brainwashed, it won't get you far.[/quote] Haha, so you actually believe that US civilians are superior to Afghan civilians? I certainly see why America is losing the war in Afghanistan now, especially if the Army is full of people like you.[/quote] Hmmm, how are we not superior? Do you see: - Their technology level - Their Economies level - Their country in general - Their education system - Their health care - Their clothing - Their homes - their military - Their contributions to society [/quote] None of that makes the person superior. To explain why the person is superior, you'll have to dig into human biology.
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You guys know , right, that the Roman Empire did the exact same thing that you guys are accusing us of doing . You know, invading a country but you are leaving out the part that we are also modernizing it just like the Romans. Tell me, do you have respect for the Holy Roman Empire?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt Mag1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] F41L5 4T L1Fe [/quote]Again, you're missing the entire point of the analogy. It's not to compare the two organizations, it's to demonstrate how saying; "in their eyes", is stupid. [/quote]Why? To best understand the events going on the world it is necessary to look beyond your own personal worldview and see it from other's perspectives, even that of your enemies[/quote]I have. The Taliban's goals, and methods, are not something I agree with. Why would I continue to look at what they want to accomplish?
