Also, is there any chance that the flythrough will be uploaded to Youtube? Silverstream doesn't work on Ubuntu...

I'm fine with the maps in classic now. So I'll just stick to that.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo I don't really care, I'm just saying. Don't get too upset when/if it gets locked. I'm just tired of getting banned for stupid reasons and then seeing countless threads where people actually break rules and don't get banned. Not saying you should get banned or anything though, lol. [/quote] Just to clarify: the rules against promoting your maps were rectified, allowing it so long as you don't blatantly beg for downloads.

So far, testing has yielded silky smooth framerate across the board, and that is something we aim to keep a top priority throughout the testing process. So save this thread and be sure to check back through out the weekend for any new updates. Come Monday you will not be disappointed.

This looks like a flat out great map! I really want to play this map now...

Looks good. Hope it plays well.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo This is textbook rule breaking right here. Just saiyan. [/quote] How so? [/quote] You're advertising your own map on the Reach forums. [/quote] But this isn't the first thread to do this. A ninja even did it a while back. As long as we're discussing the map and not asking for downloads and tags, it's fine. I'm posting it here to garner feedback from the community. Their feedback was crucial on parts of Jackal Creek a few months ago, and they also helped other maps that went into matchmaking. I don't understand the initial vibe coming from this thread. If players don't want good maps to play on, then forgers can stop forging and go play other games. Players have to realize that what's online right now doesn't represent Forge's potential. People with good maps have been testing and designing them for months and as a result the experience is way more polished than those in matchmaking. This map has already been tested 10 times and it was only completed yesterday night. That's more tests than every single community slayer map from round one. [/quote] I don't really care, I'm just saying. Don't get too upset when/if it gets locked. I'm just tired of getting banned for stupid reasons and then seeing countless threads where people actually break rules and don't get banned. Not saying you should get banned or anything though, lol.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo This is textbook rule breaking right here. Just saiyan. [/quote] How so? [/quote] You're advertising your own map on the Reach forums. [/quote] But this isn't the first thread to do this. A ninja even did it a while back. As long as we're discussing the map and not asking for downloads and tags, it's fine. I'm posting it here to garner feedback from the community. Their feedback was crucial on parts of Jackal Creek a few months ago, and they also helped other maps that went into matchmaking. I don't understand the initial vibe coming from this thread. If players don't want good maps to play on, then forgers can stop forging and go play other games. Players have to realize that what's online right now doesn't represent Forge's potential. People with good maps have been testing and designing them for months and as a result the experience is way more polished than those in matchmaking. This map has already been tested 10 times and it was only completed yesterday night. That's more tests than every single community slayer map from round one.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo This is textbook rule breaking right here. Just saiyan. [/quote] How so? [/quote] You're advertising your own map on the Reach forums. [/quote] the tread pertains to Halo:Reach so it's perfectly ok.

Design wise? It's very detailed, good looking and has a nice heavy feeling to it.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo This is textbook rule breaking right here. Just saiyan. [/quote] How so? [/quote] You're advertising your own map on the Reach forums.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShieldyPoo This is textbook rule breaking right here. Just saiyan. [/quote] How so?

This is textbook rule breaking right here. Just saiyan.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [b]Purple Room/Overshield/Generator Room[/b] >[url=http://img19.imageshack.us/f/reach16284905full.jpg/]View 1[/url] >[url=http://img806.imageshack.us/f/reach16284890full.jpg/]Man Cannon[/url] >[url=http://img808.imageshack.us/f/reach16284921full.jpg/]View of Red Base from Purple Transition[/url][/quote] Mmm, purple. I await this map with bated breath.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sykes707[/quote] I know you mean well, but you must not understand the testing process. You don't just test with a small group of friends and then put it on your file share. That's going to make your map good for your group of friends, but the masses are the ones who will be playing it more. Their opinion is what matters, and you need to collect it and make the appropriate changes from it. If you have no intention of getting it online, then that's fine. But we build these maps for multiplayer. Alpha testing is what we do after we build it. We test it internally and then make modifications to geometry, weapons, and spawns. This phase of testing is crucial because it helps us to figure out what weapons need to be on the map, where they need to be, and how geometry needs to be changed, etc. Beta testing is when we put it on our fileshares for other players to download and test with their friends or run around and give us suggestions. The only thing we change during Beta testing is spawns and weapon timers. Keep in mind that most of the maps in Matchmaking right now--including many of the Forgetacular winners--have only been tested a handful of times (if even at all). We test our maps hundreds of times for weeks to ensure that they are high-quality and fun to play on every time. This has nothing to do with "popularity" or "hyping up a map". We are delivering a quality forge map for the community and we want them to be a part of it. Unless you'd rather play on maps like those in Community BTB, which (no offense to their creators) weren't well constructed. [Edited on 04.08.2011 6:08 PM PDT]

3 player splitscreen, nuff said = ]. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A 3 Legged Goat [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nobody6400 The map looks awesome, now how's the framerate? [/quote] Silky smooth. [/quote] [Edited on 04.08.2011 6:08 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nobody6400 The map looks awesome, now how's the framerate? [/quote] Silky smooth.

Very nice map. I really like Godly's work. [Edited on 04.08.2011 6:01 PM PDT]

Impossible.

I only have one head so I can't think twice.

The map looks awesome, now how's the framerate?

Where's the other thread :(

Nice title. I totally fell for it.

Inb4OMGitsa3leggedgoat. Now for my real reply: The corridors look really narrow and will be a haven for grenade spam, I don't know, sorry to not jump on your bandwagon but it doesn't look great. That said, things can play better than they look although to be honest you really don't need aplha whatever tests, that's just sounds like you're trying to release something it isn't upon the community and trying too hard at that, just get a group of friends and run through it. And public beta testing? Are you serious, Goat? i know you're popular on the forum but don't abuse it and over-hype your map. Also another issue I have is that you've done the one thing that ruins a lot of maps, you've enclosed it in Forerunner walls, it's nothing but grey, I suggest you leave some naturall scenery so your map doesn't look generic. [Edited on 04.08.2011 6:03 PM PDT]

[quote][b]THREAD DISCLAIMER:[/b][/quote] We've received a lot of negative feedback about the feedback thread itself rather than the map. While we appreciate you taking the time to comment, we kindly ask that you refrain from posting off-topic or otherwise inappropriate remarks related to anything other than the map itself. This thread wasn't made with the intention of promoting our map for downloads. It wasn't made to provide exposure for the four of us as designers. We posted this feedback thread with the intention of improving the gameplay experience on Think Twice. We understand now that posting it as early as we did wasn't fair to the rest of the forgers, and we also understand why we seemed to come off as egotistical, arrogant, or elitist. Conversely, we stand by the necessity of posting feedback threads, and we hope that this has been an example to all forgers. It is imperative that you take your map seriously when you are testing it. Not everybody is going to like you or your map, but how you handle their criticism (legitimate and otherwise) and how you apply it towards your creation is what will define you as a designer. If you're building maps for matchmaking, you'll have to endure repeated testing and tweaking before it's ready. While we can be a bit biased at times, I assure you that the four of us strive to be as humble as we can and take in all constructive feedback. Being told your map isn't good can be disheartening, but we've approached the legitimate criticism with open-minds and either considered or tested many of the ideas. Thanks to all for your cooperation, and thanks to Urk and the rest of Bungie for supporting us. We hope you enjoy the map, and if not, please share your feedback with us. [quote][/quote] [quote][b]Recent recorded playtests[/b][/quote] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=585197409&player=GodlyPerfection]TS 50-40[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=585315819&player=GodlyPerfection]3-plots 301-299[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=565966861&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]CTF 3-1[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=565953918&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]TS 47-46[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=564351504]Slayer 50-48 (with achronos!)[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563992130&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]CTF 3-0[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563972135&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Stockpile 11-6[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563956118&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Juggernaut[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563941417&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Speedpile 50-49[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563927911&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]3-plots 300-225[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563916278&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Oddball[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563011726&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-40[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=563001986&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Infection[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562992440&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]CTF 3-2[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562985315&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Headhunter 50-18[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562971261&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Multi-Bomb Assault 3-2[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562956604&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]FFA Headhunter[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562945765&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-34[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562747083&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]FFA Infection[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562725912&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]FFA Infection[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562665670&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-43[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562648167&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-42[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=562616089&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-48[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560533530&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-42[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560507051&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-46[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560488487&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]FFA Slayer[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560146391&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-48[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560132563&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Team Slayer 50-47[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560113134&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]CTF 3-2[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=560098059&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]FFA Slayer[/url] >[url=http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=559620343&player=A%203%20Legged%20Goat]Internal FFA Slayer[/url] [Edited on 04.25.2011 9:55 AM PDT]