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10/2/2010 2:15:48 AM
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Credit Resets
Good evening,
We are in the process of applying credit resets to approximately 15,000 users who we have identified as the most egregious Challenge Reset abusers.
A one day credit earning ban has also been applied, mostly to ensure that recipients receive an in-game notification of the action taken.
As with any such measure, we have taken the time to carefully select our criteria to eliminate false positives.
A more comprehensive pass will be occuring in the coming week as our automated Banhammer mechanisms grow accurate enough to satisfy our high bar for burden of proof. If you are thinking about getting an easy 50k credits by using this exploit, I would strongly advise you to reconsider.
Thank you, and please direct any discussion of these resets to this thread.
[b]Edit 1[/b]: a point of clarification. No bans were handed out tonight for
a) Playing too much Gruntpocalypse (no such thing!)
b) Using the target locator too much (no such thing!)
Specifically, we targeted an exploit that allowed players to complete a Challenge 20+ times via itentional network manipulation (i.e., disconnects.)
Spot checks have revealed the telltale signature of this behavior on every denier so far, so don't be fooled by the protests of innocence. We aren't.
[b]Edit 2[/b]:
1) If you have lost your Legendary Helmet or any other downloadable offers, you can re-download them via your Download History. We're not sure this is affecting anyone (we haven't reproduced it internally), but just in case it is, give this a try.
2) We won't be resetting Commendations, as we do not feel that the exploit used affected them. It would not be fair to people who did use the exploit but who wish to retain the record of their playstyle, and we cannot differentiate between the two systematically. Sorry.
[Edited on 10.01.2010 9:02 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Commander Waha [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] X BC73 X Well if wer'e gonna give a background Jay I might as well too. I'm 26, with a bachelors in history, with a focus in european history, a minor in psych and I'm currently working 50 hours a week while taking care of my 6 year old parentless half brother and trying to get a bachelors in CJ(almost done), I've been with my girl for three years nov. 16th and we're engaged, haven't set a date yet due to me enlisting in the army at the end of November... Now that being said, stop replying to my posts u scrub. Emp erno, I never called myself mpg pro, but compared to u, I might as well be lunchbox LOL. I posted to make a point, not to be criticized by scrubs...again, anyone with half a brain and some skill, I know your out there because halo isn't like cod, it takes skill to play, please answer my previous question of how I ruined your INGAME experiance. Also, emp, I like all the boosted camaign commendations, ur so legit bro. Captain Grade 2 two weeks ago, before challenge resetting as well. No animocity was intended in my posts but I'm not gonna be called unlegit by scrubs I wipe the floor with because I boosted for armour...I boosted for something that never affected anyone gameplay and I accept the punishment...I just don't like the idea of scrubs calling me unlegit.[/quote] You have a worthless bachelors and you're joining the Welfare Corps. And you're calling other people scrubs? [/quote] But he totally owned my "fourth year medical student" with his "history degree"! I mean, he's probably going to go on and get an entry-level job in a field unrelated to his degree, while I'm going to graduate and become one of those worthless "doctor" people. ...Wait.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jaythenerdkid [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Also, scrubs isn't a good insult. [/quote] Not gonna lie - every time I see it, I think of either the TV show or the clothes we wear when we're in the operating theatre. Not exactly the most evocative insult in the world.[/quote] Maybe he's using it because he keeps going into JD-like daydreams involving him rallying the Bungie forums to his banner of 'We cheated fairly, give us back the stuff we stole'.[/quote] Then he comes out of the daydream with a complete non-sequitur that has the person he's talking to boggling at him. Something like "I'm going to need to start a petition!", perhaps? XD My boyfriend's playing Rumble Pit, and he just saw two reset cheaters in one game. He had quite a good time trolling them. :D To their credit, though, they took it pretty well. Maybe that's because the cheaters who aren't brain-dead whiners are online re-earning their credits and taking their punishments like adults, whereas the rest of them are here kicking up a stink over Bungie's apparently unprecedented decision to punish people for blatant rule-breaking.
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My whole point being I got reset for never affecting actual in game content and to get technical I only affected my own player content, the use of the word cheater is a bit harsh, booster I can live with, cheater, nope...I own scrubs legit. As to the whole "look in the mirror" comment I was referring to someone who never ONI glitches and has a competitive KD way better than mine not .10 points higher. Again, I never misused ingame content, all I did was give myself cool armour, it's obvious u guys take your looks very seriously and your trueskill ehhh not so much. The quest begins anew today and anybody who wants to game with me I'd feel free to ignore the heated nerd rage and game with you, after all it's all about fun and not ranks and skill right?...wait, this is the halo nerd community I'm talking to LOL Gt is x bc73 x scrubs
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] X BC73 X Well if wer'e gonna give a background Jay I might as well too. I'm 26, with a bachelors in history, with a focus in european history, a minor in psych and I'm currently working 50 hours a week while taking care of my 6 year old parentless half brother and trying to get a bachelors in CJ(almost done), I've been with my girl for three years nov. 16th and we're engaged, haven't set a date yet due to me enlisting in the army at the end of November... Now that being said, stop replying to my posts u scrub. Emp erno, I never called myself mpg pro, but compared to u, I might as well be lunchbox LOL. I posted to make a point, not to be criticized by scrubs...again, anyone with half a brain and some skill, I know your out there because halo isn't like cod, it takes skill to play, please answer my previous question of how I ruined your INGAME experiance. Also, emp, I like all the boosted camaign commendations, ur so legit bro. Captain Grade 2 two weeks ago, before challenge resetting as well. No animocity was intended in my posts but I'm not gonna be called unlegit by scrubs I wipe the floor with because I boosted for armour...I boosted for something that never affected anyone gameplay and I accept the punishment...I just don't like the idea of scrubs calling me unlegit.[/quote] You have a worthless bachelors and you're joining the Welfare Corps. And you're calling other people scrubs?
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What has Bungie.net turn into? School?!?!?!?
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Hahaha i knew this would happen! 3 of my friends were all boosting and i told them they would get banned or their rank reset. That was a week ago, and all their ranks are reset! Well played bungie, Well played.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BubblEz0000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Whew, so much idiocy, so little time. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BubblEz0000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiIed Frogs My point is, you can't suddenly decide to ban people for doing something in your game that you allowed to happen, because if you allowed it to happen you either prove that; 1. It's meant to be that way. 2. You didn't test your own game enough before releasing it. [/quote] Unplugging your ethernet cable is not part of the game.[/quote] Well, it obviously is isnt it...[/quote] Find your Halo Reach box. Open it. Get the manual out. Read it. I think you won't find a single line detailing how you can use your Ethernet cable to get easy Credits. Unplugging your cable is [i] not [/i] a feature of Halo: Reach you moron. You can do that with any game, it just so happens that if you do it in this game at a specific time you can cheat to get more credits. That is [i] not [/i] a game mechanic. That is you taking advantage of a combination of overlooked glitch and hardware, and also violating the Terms of Service. [/quote] You sound like my mum! God just shut it...[/quote] Word of advice bud. If you're tired of it. Ignore it! What a concept...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BubblEz0000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Whew, so much idiocy, so little time. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BubblEz0000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiIed Frogs My point is, you can't suddenly decide to ban people for doing something in your game that you allowed to happen, because if you allowed it to happen you either prove that; 1. It's meant to be that way. 2. You didn't test your own game enough before releasing it. [/quote] Unplugging your ethernet cable is not part of the game.[/quote] Well, it obviously is isnt it...[/quote] Find your Halo Reach box. Open it. Get the manual out. Read it. I think you won't find a single line detailing how you can use your Ethernet cable to get easy Credits. Unplugging your cable is [i] not [/i] a feature of Halo: Reach you moron. You can do that with any game, it just so happens that if you do it in this game at a specific time you can cheat to get more credits. That is [i] not [/i] a game mechanic. That is you taking advantage of a combination of overlooked glitch and hardware, and also violating the Terms of Service. [/quote] You sound like my mum! God just shut it...[/quote] Your mum sounds like an intelligent woman.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Whew, so much idiocy, so little time. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BubblEz0000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiIed Frogs My point is, you can't suddenly decide to ban people for doing something in your game that you allowed to happen, because if you allowed it to happen you either prove that; 1. It's meant to be that way. 2. You didn't test your own game enough before releasing it. [/quote] Unplugging your ethernet cable is not part of the game.[/quote] Well, it obviously is isnt it...[/quote] Find your Halo Reach box. Open it. Get the manual out. Read it. I think you won't find a single line detailing how you can use your Ethernet cable to get easy Credits. Unplugging your cable is [i] not [/i] a feature of Halo: Reach you moron. You can do that with any game, it just so happens that if you do it in this game at a specific time you can cheat to get more credits. That is [i] not [/i] a game mechanic. That is you taking advantage of a combination of overlooked glitch and hardware, and also violating the Terms of Service. [/quote] You sound like my mum! God just shut it...
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@KSI_Hallucinate how the hell does murdering someone even compare to boosting you are a retard
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I'm pretty sure that I did the Target Locator 511 times and I didn't get banned. LOL I even have 2 of those commendations almost maxed out. So the target locator thing isn't what is getting everyone banned. then what did they do? Im going to LOL if I don't get banned and everyone else does. Seems like justice to me, maybe they will reset my halocharts info as well. If I get banned, I make this promise now. "I will not rest until I have found a way to farm credits like the way I have in the past few days." [Edited on 10.03.2010 5:09 AM PDT]
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Ahh the usual forum arguments. Refreshing, isn't it?
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Whew, so much idiocy, so little time. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BubblEz0000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiIed Frogs My point is, you can't suddenly decide to ban people for doing something in your game that you allowed to happen, because if you allowed it to happen you either prove that; 1. It's meant to be that way. 2. You didn't test your own game enough before releasing it. [/quote] Unplugging your ethernet cable is not part of the game.[/quote] Well, it obviously is isnt it...[/quote] Find your Halo Reach box. Open it. Get the manual out. Read it. I think you won't find a single line detailing how you can use your Ethernet cable to get easy Credits. Unplugging your cable is [i] not [/i] a feature of Halo: Reach you moron. You can do that with any game, it just so happens that if you do it in this game at a specific time you can cheat to get more credits. That is [i] not [/i] a game mechanic. That is you taking advantage of a combination of overlooked glitch and hardware, and also violating the Terms of Service.
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[quote]And also point me to a game which has spent 13 years in solid testing conditions to root out every single possible bug in every single possible loophole in the game.[/quote] Well if it spent them 13 years to fix and find the bugs they obviously did a fantastic job! Bungie failed testing?
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I second said motion!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Exactly, it shouldn't matter what gender you are, it's just another person to play with. Haha, consider yourself added to my list :P But yeah, I completely agree with the vocal minority sentiment, the sooner these 15,000 self-styled victims of an evil corporation's meddling in their gaming affairs hurry up and actually carry out their threats to leave Halo, the better.[/quote] I never thought i would see the day i wanted a "like" button on bungie.net, but here it is
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jaythenerdkid [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Also, scrubs isn't a good insult. [/quote] Not gonna lie - every time I see it, I think of either the TV show or the clothes we wear when we're in the operating theatre. Not exactly the most evocative insult in the world.[/quote] Maybe he's using it because he keeps going into JD-like daydreams involving him rallying the Bungie forums to his banner of 'We cheated fairly, give us back the stuff we stole'.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiIed Frogs My point is, you can't suddenly decide to ban people for doing something in your game that you allowed to happen, because if you allowed it to happen you either prove that; 1. It's meant to be that way. 2. You didn't test your own game enough before releasing it. [/quote] Unplugging your ethernet cable is not part of the game.[/quote] Well, it obviously is isnt it...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jaythenerdkid Yeah, I usually only get it from little kids, or forty-year-olds with massive misogyny issues. A lot of my male friends are gamers, and they couldn't care less what my sex is - they just want someone to game with. I'm not really an FPS girl, so I generally don't do the multiplayer thing, but when I do it with people who know me IRL, I don't get any of that stupid sexist stuff. And most of the gamer boys I've met online have been fairly decent, too - in fact, there have been a lot of great folks in this very thread. I'm thinking of going and friending all the people who've amused me with their witty shutdowns in an effort to expand my XBL friends list beyond my boyfriend and his friends. :P The stereotype of the sexist gamer boy is based on a very vocal minority of douches who can't stomach the idea that girls are good for anything other than being sex objects. Unfortunately, pretty much every member of that minority seems to be out in force in this thread. Fortunately, they're still being smacked down by the people who are cool enough to know better. (By the way, I could have just as easily talked about perfecting my lower tenor range - I'm a very versatile singer. XD)[/quote] Exactly, it shouldn't matter what gender you are, it's just another person to play with. Haha, consider yourself added to my list :P But yeah, I completely agree with the vocal minority sentiment, the sooner these 15,000 self-styled victims of an evil corporation's meddling in their gaming affairs hurry up and actually carry out their threats to leave Halo, the better.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fessobia I got my commander legit, I did the target locator thing, and played a lot of grunt firefight, am I going to get my credits reset. [/quote] No you won't, the people being reset cheated by pulling their Ethernet cord out during challenges so they could do them over and over, the first part of what you did was lazy, not going to get you banned. [Edited on 10.03.2010 4:45 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BoiIed Frogs Nothing's a glitch until it gets fixed. Maybe it's a glitch that the needler homes in on targets (rediculous but just proving a point) and everybody will soon be banned for using this gun. My point is, you can't suddenly decide to ban people for doing something in your game that you allowed to happen, because if you allowed it to happen you either prove that; 1. It's meant to be that way. 2. You didn't test your own game enough before releasing it. Neither of which should mean paying customers should have to pay the price for lazy development. I'm going to be scared when I play Halo now, incase something I do is only allowed because a Bungie member forgot to fix it.[/quote] I LIKE THIS GUY!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Emperor Erno Also, scrubs isn't a good insult. [/quote] Not gonna lie - every time I see it, I think of either the TV show or the clothes we wear when we're in the operating theatre. Not exactly the most evocative insult in the world.
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I got my commander legit, I did the target locator thing, and played a lot of grunt firefight, am I going to get my credits reset.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] X BC73 X Emp erno, I never called myself mpg pro, but compared to u, I might as well be lunchbox LOL. Also, emp, I like all the boosted camaign commendations, ur so legit bro.
[/quote] I never called you 'mpg pro' either. LOL, you sure showed me. Yes, I am 'legit' actually. If you'd care to, oh, I don't know, [i] read the very first post [/i] you might be able to make out that farming credits is perfectly acceptable. Sure, it's sad and I could have used my time more productively, but I chose to use a game feature. Key words 'a game feature'. The checkpoint that allows you to do that is in the game. Your ethernet cable is not. Killing enemies with a Target Locator, then reverting to the last checkpoint and repeating, uses only legitimate, in-game mechanics. Tearing the ethernet cable out of your Xbox's backside is not. Furthermore, with the Sword Base method, the amount of credits you can get decreses rapidly as you max out commendations. With the challenge reset exploit, you can get as many credits as you like until you hit the cap. You can also hit the cap in a MUCH shorter time than if you tried doing it with Sword Base. 50,000 cR in an hour or done by taking advantage of an overlooked fault in the challenge and network system, in violation of the Terms of Service, is considerably worse than reverting to checkpoints a few times and maxing out your commendations and never being able to use that method effectively again, thus limiting the amount of Credits you can earn through it. Also, scrubs isn't a good insult. -
Honestly, they should have no jurisdiction over what players do outside of the game and game system. If I do chose to turn off my internet if and when I chose--why don't they make a game that is capable of not being manipulated through that route? It's not part of the game because the internet people buy is theirs and they should be able to do what they want with it. Food for thought. Unreasonable to expect some type of company would ban you for turning off the internet that is pretty independent from the game they made. Make the game more secure...and blame yourselves not the players.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] X BC73 X Well if wer'e gonna give a background Jay I might as well too. I'm 26, with a bachelors in history, with a focus in european history, a minor in psych and I'm currently working 50 hours a week while taking care of my 6 year old parentless half brother and trying to get a bachelors in CJ(almost done), I've been with my girl for three years nov. 16th and we're engaged, haven't set a date yet due to me enlisting in the army at the end of November... Now that being said, stop replying to my posts u scrub. Emp erno, I never called myself mpg pro, but compared to u, I might as well be lunchbox LOL. I posted to make a point, not to be criticized by scrubs...again, anyone with half a brain and some skill, I know your out there because halo isn't like cod, it takes skill to play, please answer my previous question of how I ruined your INGAME experiance. Also, emp, I like all the boosted camaign commendations, ur so legit bro. Captain Grade 2 two weeks ago, before challenge resetting as well. No animocity was intended in my posts but I'm not gonna be called unlegit by scrubs I wipe the floor with because I boosted for armour...I boosted for something that never affected anyone gameplay and I accept the punishment...I just don't like the idea of scrubs calling me unlegit.[/quote] umm with a 1.13 kd you don't get to call anyone a scrub but the guy in the mirror.
