[i]Critically acclaimed! Read what the critics have been raving about![/i] [quote][b]Person25-[/b] "Whatever you are smoking, hook me up."[/quote] [quote][b]Lord Snakie[/b] He outdid three years of me making random theories influenced by how tired I was and how much I wanted to mess with people in one day? Son of a.... [/quote] [quote][b]Wolverfrog[/b] *Head asplodes*[/quote] [B] WARNING. DO NOT PASS THIS POINT IF YOU SUFFER ANY HEART INFLICTIONS, AS IT MAY LEAD TO STROKE AND OR DEATH.[/B] [b]Intro:[/b] I have always been very spectacle about a direct Marathon Halo story link. I was the guy who always said "Your a moron if you think that, Bungie stated there is no direct link." Now out a pure irony, fate seems to find it amusing to make me believe. And thats what this thread is about, Fate. The place (and time?) you will read here may be the most ridiculous thing you have ever to lay eyes upon in this forum. Where this thread journeys, there is no canon, there is no [i]fact[/i], there is only hypothetical thinking that defies all laws of nature and common sense. It may very well be impossible for one human mind to comprehend. [b]Basic Theory Origin[/b] Recently i've been playing much Marathon. Maybe a little [i]too[/i] much. I was fascinated by the similarities of Master Chief and the security guard you play in Marathon. But what really blew my mind was Marathon: Infinity. If you are playing any of the games right now, and don't wish to be spoiled, please stop. Although I will be as undescriptive as possible of the details. In M:I, basically you travel through space and time by an unknown force. You travel between alternate realities constantly. Its like waking up to find that you where never born, then have to escape the cops because they think you broke into the house you live in. Durandal is a rampant AI in the Marathon games. He has a sense of humor similar to Cortana's as she became rampant, or even before. Where am I getting at? Just give me a minute. Master Chief, the security guard, and even the Rookie all have something in common. There faceless. Almost all of the Bungie main characters are. Now this is where we cross into, [i]the twilight zone[/i].I want you to forget every thing you thought you knew, all your logic and common sense, all your criticism, and make your mind blank and unbiased. The Master Chief was chosen because of [i]luck[/i]. What where the odds he got the right side pf the coin? 50/50. What where the odds he would survive the training? Even less. What where the odds that he survived all the impossible encounters that he survived? 1 in a million? Yet he does, every time. He is in a way invincible. Every time he faces death, the impossible happens. [i]He escapes[/i]. As is the same with our Marathon Cyborg (which makes the same initials). [quote]I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh. I have been called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the world goes dim and cold. I am hero.[/quote] Beowulf, Achilles, and other legendary heros, all invincible. In not saying that you could shoot them in the head and they would survive. Im saying that [i]you never would be able to[/i]. They are invincible in the sense that they are lucky. Skilled, but lucky. MC (presumably) is saying he has been them all. Like reincarnation. In essence, they are all the same man. His soul reborn after eventual death. being born again in different times, and different universes. Want a little more supporting evidence? I would be happy to oblige. [quote] We've watched while the stars burned out, and creation played in reverse. The universe freezing in half light. Once I thought to escape. To end the end a master, step out of the path of collapse. Escape would make us God. Yet I cannot help remember one enigma. A hybrid, elusive destroyer. This is the only mystery I have not solved. The only element unaccounted for. Even S'buth is no more, he saved his entire race, but in the end, frozen by despair. he joined the chaos he sought to evade. But you where dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting into an infinite pattern. Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild. Now, in the quantum moment before closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. [i]You are Destiny[/i].[/quote] I know you must have a head ache right now. But we still have much to cover. Lets dissect this message piece by piece, and digest its deep and hidden meanings. In the first paragraph, the writer (presumably Durandal) says he watched creation play in reverse. The universe ending, almost Armageddon. This is the point of closure, when time just [i]ends[/i]. I will explain this latter, but we need to focus on the other part. [quote]Escape would make us God. Yet I cannot help remember one enigma. A hybrid, elusive destroyer. This is the only mystery I have not solved. The only element unaccounted for.[/quote] This is what I am naming MC, both Master Chief and the Marathon cyborg. It clearly reffering to him in every way, a cyborg, and undefeatable. So now that were clear on that, lets move on. [quote]But you where dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand.[/quote] Dead a thousand times? I think this supports my theory that MC are one in the same. As well as other legendary heros. All the same entity reborn, again and again, in different times and realities. For every situation, there are thousands of outcomes that might occur. In the many situations MC faces, he happens to come out on top. Even when your playing, if you make a mistake, time seems to rewind. This could go on forever as you try every possibility and eventually find the correct one. This explains MC being "immortal". As well as the other Hero's. They face the same problem again and again, until they win. Like he is not meant to die, so he experiences the same thing over and over until he realizes his mistake. [i]Luck[/i]. So in essence, you he died a thousand times. And encounters that where all but hopeless, you win. [quote]You follow the path, fitting into an infinite pattern. Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild. Now, in the quantum moment before closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. I know who you are. [i]You are Destiny[/i].[/quote] What is this path? What can you destroy manipulate and rebuild? And finally, you are Destiny? If MC is reborn again and again, this explains the infinite pattern. Also the "time reverse" effect you experience as a player. But if MC is not those characters, and is instead the force behind them. Then what is he? Destiny? [quote]We've watched while the stars burned out, and creation played in reverse. The universe freezing in half light. Once I thought to escape. To end the end a master, step out of the path of collapse. Escape would make us God.[/quote] You may be familiar with the real life "Time Paradox" theory. Many believe that if you went back in time, you would change the future. But this theory states, that if you did travel back in time, the future is the way it is [i]because[/i] you went back in time. Lets say in 1999 a dude appears out of no where and claims he is from the future. Then he goes back, somehow effecting the future by the traditional thought. But lets fast forward to 2009. This dude makes a time machine and goes in the past, therefore explaining what you saw. Which means when he "comes back", everything is the same. Because he already went back in time before. If MC did in fact escape the collapse of space and time, the end of that universe (as it is hinted he did). Then its is possible that he crossed into another universe, another reality. Think of it like this: "Universes" are bubbles, once he escaped one, he could walk into others. He would be reborn as any other human (or alien?). But why is he invincible? Because he escaped the reality. Its a time paradox. He escaped, then was reincarnated millennia before he escaped. Then made his way from there. Until he is reborn as MC and escapes once more, starting all over again. Its an "infinite pattern". A never ending circle. Him being unable to die is a law of physics onto itself. The cycle cannot be broken, thus he cannot die. Let me explain it a little bit more. If that person in 2009, was being shot at by lets say cops(before he travels back in time). You would know, no matter what he will escape. Because you saw him in 1999, "after" he went back in time. So in order for the cycle to be complete, he has to live and escape. In order to go back to 1999 and for you to see him. So MC is in the same position. He is reincarnated because he became a god, so in order for him to escape and become a god in the future (completing the circle) he has to survive everything that happens to him. He is a law of nature unto himself. His death would cause the entire space time fabric to unfold, or something to that extent. Therefore, every-time he is reborn he because another great hero. But then if the MC theory is correct, he also crosses in to other universes. Like the Halo universe. This could also have implications for where the Precursors disappeared to. They are remarkably similar to the Jjaro (in marathon) and many theorize they exited this plain of existence. I'll also throw some thought provoking supporting evidence in from the Halo universe itself. [quote]Adjutant Reflex is terminated. Attempt no further communication. I am utilizing its matrix. Everything is within protocol. Tomorrow, things may be clearer but I will not be here to witness the clarity. I am for another place and another time. On my terms. Be seeing you.[/quote] [Edited on 10.13.2009 2:02 PM PDT]