[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Krewl Intent I also have a theory... *puts on flamesuit* Your competitive players, which I believe is what you are describing as hardcore, are looking for a level, predictable environment. I commonly refer to it as the NASCAR way of thinking. The rules and variables are all targeted to make the only variable the skill of the player. This means, if you get beat, it was by a more skilled player, not by someone stumbling upon a rocket spawn behind you because of dynamic spawns. The casual players are more like F1. We want the environment to constantly be a factor, and force us to adapt to it. Since the causal player is not a concerned about the skill of the other team, and their own (as long as they are close), don't confuse this with not being concerned with winning. Most will give 100% to a game, but not be upset about a loss because of some inbalance, or environmental variable that would cause a competitive player to toss his controller in disgust... There really is not one that is "better" than the other, and both POV are valid, just different. The trick is being able to create a game flexible enough to allow for both types of players to enjoy their gaming experience... -KI[/quote] QFT